Vazquez vs. Marquez & Mares vs. Perez RBR

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, May 22, 2010.


  1. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Thankfully they weren't hurt seriously, thats the best, I'm glad they got a payday, amazing guys, hope they dont need another payday.
     
  2. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. SharkAttack

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    this cut is right there with Vitali's in the Lenox fight
     
  4. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jesus christ that cut is terrible
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, there is the usual primary target for most boxers, that's not exactly near the eyebrow. You may have heard of a little something called the chin? :yep

    Not that either of these guys needed to be feeding each other a ton more cephalic trauma than they already have period (I was not thrilled when this was announced in the first place), but it's certainly possible to make it a bit more sporting by not exploiting someone's scar tissue and hitting them in the more customary areas of the lower parts of the face as well as the body instead of specifically zeroing in on those water-balloon sockets.
     
  6. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    So you would basically prefer Marquez to intentionally NOT target the eyes, and deliberately target the chin and the body instead, because this way he would make it 'a bit more sporting'? If a fighter comes to fight having a bad tooth, should his opponent avoid hitting him in the face because it wouldn't be honourable?

    The thing is, team Vasquez knew the man had water-balloon sockets that would basically explode on contact, yet they took the fight. I agree on one thing with you, this fight shouldn't have been made in the first place. But since they put Vasquez in there, Marquez had every right to hit him anywhere he wanted and take him out of there, as he did.
     
  7. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** that,Marquez was down 2-1 he needed to do what he needed to do to win boxing isnt a team sport its a "I" sport so Vasquez's face and eyes was legal so he pounded on it like any champion should have.And the cuts are only part of the reason he won his gameplan was better he used his jab,and he was sharper,and vasquez didnt look like the same guy,someones bound to slow down from those wars,Marquez just figured out how to beat a great 1 dimensional fighter.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    What the **** is wrong with you guys? NO.

    NO.

    FFS, no.

    I don't think he should not do it. I don't think there should be a rule against it or anything like that. It's just disappointing to me that he chose to. That's all. I've said it fifty million ****ing times now. ****ing drop it, if you're all just going to keep repeating yourselves.

    It was shrewd and opportunistic. I just don't consider Marquez "shrewd and opportunistic". That's not the image of him that exists in my head for the most part. I consider him a gladiator. Tonight, he was both a gladiator, and shrewd and opportunistic. It ****ed Vazquez right up. It made me unhappy. The end. Let's all move on.
     
  9. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    Every fighter is a result of his past fights and experiences, what he becomes is just the total package of all these.

    Rafa has fought Izzy three times. Of course he knows Izzy's strengths as well as his weaknesses, he knows Izzy cuts badly. Targeting the part of his head where it would do most damage is just like choosing whether to go to the body or the head, which will do more damage and be more consistent with his game plan going in.

    It's well known Izzy has near-granite chin, in fact it coupled with his warrior heart is what has enabled him to win twice over Rafa. Should Rafa unload his bombs on the chin, where he knows from past experience wouldn't net him the effect he would have wanted, or on the general eye area where he knows Izzy cuts real badly?

    It's part of the fight game, and I for one don't find anything indecent or dishonorable with that kind of strategy.
     
  10. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    OK. So you think Marquez didn't fight an honourable fight.

    If you were in Marquez's position, would you intentionally target the body and the chin instead of the eyes? Please answer truthfully.

    PS: Don't know if you read it, I gave your girl kudos for knowing her boxing earlier in the thread. :yep
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Jesus titty****ing Christ, one passing comment and I'm getting from all angles across several pages. :-(

    Done. That particular conversation is done. Over. Anybody else who quotes one of my posts about it, don't expect a reply.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's not even something I feel all that strongly about.

    If I was in Marquez's position? No way of knowing without being in it. That's got nothing to do with whether he lived up to my standards for him or not. If it was Vazquez, with the roles reversed, might he have done it himself? I don't know. It doesn't ****ing matter. I made one ****ing comment, why is this a big thing?
     
  13. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    I agree with IB.. I know why he'd do it.. but it ain't the fight we wanted to see.
     
  14. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So the **** what if it makes you unhappy,boxing is a pain sport,this isnt ****ing golf,we dont watch it because it is sporting,we watch it for the technique and brutality,Marquez's technique and brutality was excellent,you dont win by being a nice guy,get real.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No ****, I wasn't making a big deal out of this in the first place. It's just my puny little opinion. Everyone ****ing get off my back. :lol: