Vergil Ortíz, Jr. vs. Eimantas Stanionis

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"The Mustang" or "War Ready"?

Poll closed Jul 8, 2023.
  1. Ortíz on points

    23.3%
  2. Ortíz by stoppage

    50.0%
  3. Draw

    3.3%
  4. Stanionis on points

    10.0%
  5. Stanionis by stoppage

    13.3%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You'd have to drive it over me in the process though and I hate being interrupted during my bedroom workouts
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I like to train to keep my guns looking super swole
     
  3. Bubba

    Bubba Pay $5 month or they will let me out of the cage Full Member

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    Stanionis by stoppage.

    Ortiz may not be the same fighter after rhabdomyolysis.

    Hope I am wrong.
     
  4. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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  5. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Luckily you are wrong. Ortiz is winning this.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I've been one of the biggest backers and fanboys of Ortiz on this site, for quite some time. But I'd be lying if I said I was supremely confident he was going to get the win this Saturday. A fully healthy Ortiz, I'd still have a degree of trepidation for him going into this match, Stanionis is no joke. While Ortiz would've most likely outworked him or possibly won by late stoppage, the possibility of Eimantas doing the same to him, wasn't out of the realm of possibility. So to take a match like this after coming off two bouts with rhabdomyolysis, which is potentially fatal, is absolute madness, and if he can pull it off, it should be rated as one of the best wins of the year. Because on top of Eimantas being a tough as nails rock solid opponent, he's also a bit of a stylistic nightmare fo Ortiz. Eimantas is deceptively fast, catches and shoots quite well, has excellent timing and tends to find openings and punches with his opponents, which eventually makes them a bit more apprehensive to let their hands go. So if he can take the power of Ortiz, and he might, Butaev hits like a Mack truck and he took his power disturbingly well, then he can very much get into a rhythm and counter the hell out of Vergil and in combination. Now... if this is a weatherbeaten shell of Ortiz, ravaged by rhabdomyolysis. Then his internal organs and even skin itself may be somewhat compromised and react far more poorly than with a fully healthy Ortiz, also he may not be able to generate power as well or have the same gas tank. So sadly... I'm kind of leaning Stanionis by stoppage here.

    Also, Jerry Perez is going to **** JoJo Diaz up and either send him into retirement or a downward spiral.
     
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  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Honestly, as much as I love Ortiz, things are stacked against him. It’s not crazy to say that it’s a 50/50 with healthy versions of both, but it’s a sick version of Ortiz. Also like you said, it’s stylistically a nightmare for Ortiz. If he gets the win on Saturday then it’s easily win of the year. On a side note, I thought it was just one bout with rhabdomyolysis?
     
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  8. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Second time cancelled now... Sad to say that I think this fight might end up not happening at all given Ortiz's reoccurring health issues.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Ah crap, can I return the tickets?
     
  11. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give Stanionis a replacement opponent to face this Saturday. He shouldn't be put on ice just because Ortiz had to withdraw again.
     
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  12. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Yes. In a lot of states if the headline entertainer cancels then the promotion is legally obligated to refund tickets. Contact them ASAP. I've had to do this in Nevada.
     
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  13. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    No kidding, please just let the man get in to the ring.
     
  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Ok thanks! Sucks man, I was so damn hyped for this matchup and was actually about to fly out in a couple hours. Ruined my whole mood.
     
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  15. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    That is absolutely brutal, hopefully you can find something else to get in to this weekend. I was really hyped up too....
     
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