Vergil Ortiz vs Errol Spence

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  1. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Spence even after his car crash had better wins than Vergil. He was in the top 5 P4P still.
     
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Undeservingly so, it's just that Americans, fighters exposed to western publications and higher weight classes are getting preferential treatment over a true all-division all-venues all-passports view. At best Spence was a P4P#9-10 type of fella.
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’d be going with Ortiz at this point. Maybe Spence just didn’t have the tools to give Crawford issues and he still has a lot left and deals with Ortiz better and beats him and Spence isn’t finished all along? I certainly wouldn’t go with that narrative, but I can’t be 100%.
     
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    Ice8Cold The Hype Job Spotter. Full Member

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    Don’t get me wrong Vergil is a good fighter but what has he proven to be better than prime Spence?
     
  5. MetalLicker

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    Spence should fight Tim Tszyu instead. That's a good fight between 2 fighters on the mend.

    Ortiz should be fighting Ennis after all the trash talking they did on Saturday.
     
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    Tim doesn't have a belt. Vergil does.

    Sabatical jokes aside Spence has 1 loss to Terence Crawford. Hes getting some sort of title shot.
     
  7. HistoryZero26

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    "At best Spence was a P4P#9-10 type of fella."

    What is wrong with being the 9th or 10th best fighter P4P? Thats at worst a top 2 or top 3 guy in an amazing division.
     
  8. Ike

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    I hope Ortiz faces Ennis, a match against Spence doesn't excite me at all, I think Errol's career at the top level is over now.
     
  9. Hanz Cholo

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    Boooooo , Verge is ducking boots with a $pence fight. Oscar won’t dare risk his last prospect with out proper milking & $norting!
     
  10. Babality

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    Ortiz does to him what Spence did to his opponents, but more brutally because he has more power.
     
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    I wasn't talking about Vergil. Good fighter, LOTS to prove.
    Nothing wrong with a fighter being accurately ranked which Spence wasn't, due to: read my post again.
     
  12. BoxingIQ

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    Doesn't matter. This Virgil is definitely a better fighter than procrash Spence
     
  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Spences name being pimped out by Uncle Al as he has no shows
     
  14. bjl12

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    Ennis ducked Crawford and Vergil already. I would much rather Murdervaliev or Fundora at this point over Ennis tbh
     
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  15. Ice8Cold

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    He could prove to be. But now? I’d exercise caution.