Vhb Middleweight Rankings, December 2008

Arthur is unbreakableatsch He looked pretty ****ing busted up in his first fight with Miranda. If that fight was in Vegas, Atlantic City, or any other credible boxing town, it would have, and should have been stopped.

Taylor beat Hopkins twice, and he is over rated? That's a ****ing joke. There is no one even remotely close to Taylor's class on Arthur's resume'. JT would box his ears off.

Pavlik beat Taylor twice. Arthur's best win was Miranda, and it took him 16 rounds spread over two fights to do what Pavlik did in 7 rounds. Pavlik beats Arthur on resume', credibility, and skill. Head to head Abraham gets knocked the **** out in 8 rounds or less. Trust me; a guy who took nearly 12 rounds to dispose of the great Elvyn Ayala can not hang with Pavlik.

I won't rank Winky anymore. I did not find out he pulled out of his come back fight until this morning. He's out of the picture for now.

 

I guess Mundine goes straight into top 5 when he makes he's middlweight debbut in Feb 09.

Very weak division outside top 2 at the moment

 

Griffin should be directly following Sturm. Switch 1 and 2. Where's Winky?

 

Oh, Winky hasn't fought at MW in a while, ok

 

Some of us ranked Winky high at 160 based on the assumption that he was going to make a succesful come back. However, he pulled out of his upcoming fight due to an injury. He's out of the picture for now.

 

Winky Wright's not even on this list. wth lol

 

I'm pretty disappointed about Winky Wright pulling out of his come back fight. Winky at 160 would heat things up a bit.

I don't know to much about Mundine. Based on the little I do know, if he can make 160, we could put him just below, or maybe just above, Sturm.

Even though Zuniga has been at 168, I think he belongs at 160. He's to small for SMW, and he is another guy that could beat most of the top 10 at 160.

Marquez fought a draw with McKart, and then got a very narrow decision over Lorenzo. Then he got a title shot against Abraham. Rubio is getting a shot at Pavlik based on a win over Ornelas. McKart also holds a recent win over Ornelas. Bronco belongs in the top 20. If he beats Karamazin for the vacant NABF title on the 20th, he belongs around 8-10. we'll have to wait and see on that one.

 

Pavlik is still the champ, his loss to ATG B-Hop doesn't hurt his standing at MW.

Why is Asikainen still in the top5?

 

Well spoken,vhb!

Carrera vs Sturm would have been a bloody exciting and interesting fight.The Argie has the right style to make the water hot for Sturm.
A pity that their encounter didnt come off due to Carrera's surprising loss to Castillejo in their rematch!!!

 

Bah! Your arguments have some flaws,mate!

Ayala ???????

By the way taking a leaf out of your book what about the following argument:

Pavlik had to go the full distance in his 15th pro fight with a no-hoper named Edson Madrid whereas AA stopped Ian Gardner in in his 15 th pro fight.

Trust me, a guy who cant stop a no-hoper like Madrid can not hang with AA.

You like above argument,dont you!!