Ra's Al Ghul is very bad for rewriting history and I have even seen him argue things until video evidence is presented. He does have knowledge but gets owned due to bias alot of the time, bit like how I have done with Loudon lol
Well they should be ranked higher, I mean Magee did face prime Froch and push him close whereas Ward faced faded Froch and was pushed close
Not sure what Eubank getting a controversial decision over Close has to do with him scoring impressive wins over Benn, Wharton, Malinga, Rocchigiani? Thats like So not sure what your point is?
Eubank getting a controversial decision over Close is far worse than Ward getting a controversial decision against Kovalev.
As I said in a different thread, Eubank wore himself out with 67 rounds in one year before he met Collins but even faded he was a very dangerous fighter who could compete on the world stage, and Collins should get full credit for beating him - even if the case could be made that should have lost one of those two fights. Benn, on the other hand, really had no business being back in the ring at that stage of his career. He'd not been the same fighter since McClellan and should have stayed retired. Collins victory over Benn to me has about as much credibility as Calzaghe's win over Jones - nothing really in terms of legacy but understandable from a business perspective. I'd agree that they dont really compare to Ward's wins over Kessler or Froch, but the win over Kessler is a bit more arguable because Kessler hadn't been fighting world level opposition since he lost to Calzaghe two years previously and the arguement could be made that he - like Eubank in 1995 - was faded.
I have noticed he's rather partial to being very liberal with the truth and rewriting history. I've noticed it on a number of occasions during debates when you've been paddling his ass. Loudon is just a straight up compulsive liar, though. He lies more than he tells the truth. I honestly don't know you put up with all of his BS. The mods and admin on here refer to him as 'Loudon the Loony Liar' lol or LLL
Very true. And let's not forget he scored away wins in Denmark against 2 of the 3 Super Danes in Mads Larsen and Rudy Markussen. The Viking Warrior Mick Kessler paid him back in kind for that though.
I contemplated including Nicky Piper on my list too. Granted he was much better at 175 and he didn't campaign at 168 for too long but he could crack, was very game, and he was a member of Mensa. Ward just pretends to be intelligent, Piper was the real deal. Piper gave WBO LHW champ Leonzeer Barber a real hiding before he got caught by that savage left hook. Barber's eye was swollen something terrible. So severe it was surely only a minutes away from being stopped. This content is protected Remember this war between Piper and Crawford Ashley, Bailey? Two big punching nearly men slugging it out like warriors. This content is protected ^^^ That guy's YT channel is amazing, btw.
I'd personally have Andre Ward as the best SMW in existence, followed closely by Jones Jr then Slappy Joe. I've already seen a green, untested Ward in his first title fight totally outclass a non inured Kessler which was Slappy Joes best win. Then there's Jones win over Toney and Joes 20 title defenses holding the WBO title(was today's equivalent of the IBO) looks more and more of a joke each passing day.
I think Catley very likely would've gone down in history as the #2 SMW of all time had that cheating swine Dingaan Thobela not ruined him with his loaded wraps. This content is protected Catley is definitely the #2 KO artist at SMW of all time behind Wharton This content is protected Honourable mention to Dean Francis who I have at #3
You're either a Wolfgang, a Gunther or a Fritz. Guaranteed 100%. I'm very familiar with The Phantom's amazing amateur CV thank you very much. I'm also very familiar with Super Joe's as well. And contrary to the guff you're spewing, so is Dariusz is too. You don't think Dariusz knew about Joe winning 3 consecutive ABA titles at 3 different weights? You don't think he watched those fights and wasn't mightily impressed by seeing him register stoppage victories in all but one of his ABA fights at LMW and MW, some of those victims being none other than future 2 x WBC SMW champ and #1 ranked greatest KO puncher of all time at that weight Glen Catley, the beastly punching Dean Francis who never fulfilled his potential of becoming a long-reigning undisputed SMW champion and P4P star, and future WBO MW champion Jason Matthews who is a one of the greatest fighters to ever emerge from British shores? You're utterly clueless. Dariusz has been a huge fan of both Joe and The Phantom Ottke since their amateur day you frankfurter eating psycho.
LMFAO. Benn is #2 greatest puncher of all time on my MW list. His power up at SMW wasn't nearly as impressive as it was at MW. Lacy is #4 greatest puncher of all time on my SMW list and you might be able to make a case for including Hearns but that's about it lol Nonsense Catley carried his explosive power late. That's just a measure of how great a puncher he was.