Vitali - barely top 25 ATG

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  1. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    I have heard the argument that Vitali is in the top echelon of all time heavyweights, but why?

    Does beating Adamek, sosnowski, kingpin, nipples and squeaking by Del Boy (one more round and he was getting stopped) really merit a top heavyweight??

    Don't forget - renowned ped cheat (actually tested positive), quit in a fight he was easily winning, and smashed up by old Lewis

    In all honestly just based on his comeback and number of defenses, he could probably just make 25-30 ( being honest and subjective)
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, I'd have him at either between 23 and 25, but I think he'd beat most of the guys ranked around him.

    30 - Sam McVey
    29 - Joe Jeanette
    28 - Max Baer
    27 - Bob Fitzsimmons
    26 - Rid**** Bowe
    25 - Vitali Klitschko
    24 - Peter Jackson
    23 - Gene Tunney
    22 - Ken Norton
    21 - Max Schmeling

    Of these i think i'd only pick Bowe to beat him peak-for-peak and that's far from a given. Baer might be interesting.
     
  3. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    Let's be honest, Vitali is hardly even an ATG fighter. He's got HOF credentials maybe.
     
  4. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    He'd destroy Baer.
     
  5. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think any of those fights would be interesting. Not many greats on his resume.
     
  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Resume wise it should have been much better. But h2h I'd only pick a handful of fighters to beat him.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Yeah, resume just not there.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    That sounds about right. And I don't think people realize how huge this is. Vitali is among the 25 best HWs who ever lived. That's a huge achievement. People here make it sound that if you are not top 10 ATG you're a complete bum.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I wish we could assign rep points like they do on some sites now, because this is a huge commnet.

    According to boxrec there have been 27,167 heavyweight boxers since the introduction of Queensbury rules, and there are undoubtedly thousands whose names are lost. Of these thousands, Vitali is about the 25th best.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He very well may slip into the top 20. But certainly no more.

    Wladimir is much, much greater than his big brother.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Honestly Povetkin's top wins stack up nicely to Vitali's. I would argue that the gap between Vitali and Povetkin as "second best HW of the era" is actually quite narrow. Closer than most would believe on a casual thought.
     
  12. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    One could argue that if Tyson fury wins the rematch against wlad, that Tyson has a better resume than Vitali...
     
  13. Olander

    Olander Active Member Full Member

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    I think Vitali would beat Wladimir in a mythical matchup. He's meaner and has a better chin.