Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

Bowe of the first Holyfield fight beats the crap out of Vitali.

 

Guess Mcall is better then Holy too he did beat Lennox like a drum, Oliver also took Lennox's shots hands down without flinching and the fight was stopped?

Lennox may actually be worse then Wlad he was saved from Ollie the bull the cowardly Lion before he was rope a doped by Ollies chin...

 

I think Wlad was better than Bowe. Most here feel the same. I've seen Wlad vs Bowe polls, *** Spoiler *** Wlad is ranked higher.

I'm not even sure if Holyfield won the 2nd Bowe fight. I actually had lunch once with Bowe. He feels it was a draw and remains great friends with Holyfield. Well see if Blade who isn't a bad poster, can answer the below

What would Vitali's record be vs:

Bowe
Moorer
Ruiz
Toney
Donald

 

Much is made of Vitali's win loss and rounds won record by a particular poster but the fact that his opposition was pretty poor is glossed over by the same man.Also the fact is in a fight he was winning, he quit cold against a much smaller man who was a non puncher, sure he was injured ,but Buddy McGirt went the distance with the same injury in a fight he was losing against Pernell Whitaker. A novice Liston went the distance with a broken jaw Kevin Finnegan did the same,as did Artur Abraham, Ali too,Danny Williams carried on in a fight with a dislocated arm and ko'd his opponent.Tommy Hearns broke his hand in the first round against Hagler,yet he continued, and went out on his shield. Vital chose not to do so,which was his prerogative,but it must be factored in when matching him with the best of the heavyweights. Vitali's resume is pretty underwhelming imo he and his brother mixed and matched troublesome opponents.Vitali's power is overated too imo, he hit Lewis flush with many right hands and could not drop him.He beat on Briggs all night yet could not stop ,or even drop him , Lewis stopped a prime Briggs.
Vitali isn't koing Holyfield and he is too slow to out box him imo once Evander gets inside those looping arm punches the fight is his imo,unlike some others Evander had the cojones to take shots to land his own.
He takes a tough but clear decision here imo.

 

Anyone stop McCall ?
Lewis v Briggs Lewis Wtko 5thrd
Vitali v Briggs Vitali w dec 12rds.

Rope a doped by McCall's chin?
The fight was stopped in the 5th how many rounds had McCall won?

Judge: Dalby Shirley 40-35

• Judge: Anek Hongtongkam 40-36

• Judge: Larry O'Connell 39-36

• Lewis controlled the first three rounds with stiff left jabs and occasional hard rights to the head. McCall refused to go to his corner after the third round and just walked around the ring. In the fourth round, all McCall did was cover up and walk around the ring. He threw two punches. When the round ended, referee Mills Lane took McCall by the arm and led him to his corner. McCall cried as Lane and his handlers talked to him, trying to figure out what was wrong. McCall told them, "I want to fight. I need to fight." McCall threw only one punch in the fifth before Lane stopped the fight 55 seconds into the round. After it was stopped, McCall, with the crowd of about 4,500 booing loudly, stalked to the dressing room, refusing to speak to anyone.

• Lewis was credited with landing 104 of 263 punches, while McCall was credited with 26 of 75

Lewis cowardly?
He fought the biggest collection of punchers since Ali was in his prime!

Vitali Lewis was 37!
Tyson
Tua
Grant
Briggs
Golota
Mercer
Butler
Morrison
Bruno
Ruddock
Mason
Weaver
You should have his balls!

 

Bowe had issues with Defense, and had a better than average but very deniable type of chin. That Bowe was only seen once in his entire career, and partly because Holyfield, wasn't quite at the same level.

Let's review. Holyfield beat a fat Buster Douglas who gave up early. The guy could have gotten up and been in shape. He wasn't serious. That's how he won the title. Holy's 1st title defense was vs an older Foreman. He was floored an in trouble vs Bert Cooper in a fight where I think the ref helped him out a little by slowing down the action after Cooper floored him! He had issues vs an older Larry Holmes who cut him. Holyfield didn't exactly beat a top ten guy in shape under 40.

Then he meet Bowe, and Bowe beat him from pillar to post.

 

Respect other posters.

 

Are you going to back up your claim that Vitali could fight on the inside , or are you content in being a liar?

 

One win doesn't make you all-timer though. It's not like Wladimir was unbeatable at that time - he lost to Purrity which was quite bad loss for example.

If you say that Vitali's best win is Sanders, then Holyfield beat quite a few better fighters than him.

 

Holyfield also lost to a lot more fighters that Vitali would have beaten. Vitali has 9-10 wins over ring magazine top 10 ranked opponents. Most were younger and he beat quite a few punchers. His defeats have everything do with an injury or cut, not ring ability and that's key.

Unlike Lewis, he didn't get a chance for a re-match. 90% would say he would have beaten Byrd in the re-match. IMO, Lewis was gassing and saved by a cut. IF you watch the film closely the cut could have been caused by an illegal backhand by Lewis which swiped the eye region that was cut just before the blood came. Its 100% there, there was also a meeting of the heads just before the blood came. Fight News.com reported it was lose tape on Lewis Glove that did it. We'll never know for sure.

 

Why did you say Holyfield never beat anybody as good as an inactive and out of shape Sanders?

 

Yes if he wanted to be on the inside, he could. He had an uppercut and good body shot. Watch his fights. I can show you video and facts. It won't matter because your closed minded on this topic. I have zero interest wasting time on you.

You need to change you act. It seems like your busy insulting other posters.

 

In that case it appears that he chose not to go to work on Lewis and Chris Byrd on the inside. But in reality he didn't because he couldn't.
Most people agree Vitali wasn't a good inside fighter. You say he is. You say he landed uppercuts on Lewis , but asked when , you can't provide the instances.

You say Douglas wasn't a good win for Holyfield , but then claim Vitali beating Sanders was better than any Holyfield win. Do you ever post with honesty?

 

I was being sarcastic friend.