Vitali Klitschko vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Do you deny that Byrd said Oquendo had the best defence?
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're going to have to provide a source for that claim otherwise it never happened.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're a guy who says Vitali beat a slicker boxer than Byrd called "Magee". . What Byrd said in that picture could be completely different to what you are claiming he said.
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haymakers are only useful if they're fast and accurate enough to connect in the first place. Johnson's weren't.

    Johnson's legs stopped working in the second round. Zero lateral movement, as he became a static target.

    All Vitali had to do was step and lean back to avoid Johnson's 'telegraphed yesterday' punches.

    Had Johnson been in better shape and looked liked he'd trained a bit, he might have made a better fight of it. As it was, he was at his career heaviest and looked it.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Don't expect much when talking to Dunning. Byrd himself during the fight told his corner, you try to land the right hand on Vitali. He was behind big time on all three score cards and surprised he won.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    He lasted 2 rounds. Could not take Vitlai's power or aggressiveness.
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

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    he showed up like a whale.a total disgrace
     
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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    And he was put down quickly. It's not like Vitali was floored or rocked, which is what happened to Holyfield vs Bert Cooper who wasn't exactly in shape either or close to the caliber of Johnson.
     
  9. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Cooper actually was in good shape vs Holyfield he had scored a big win over Joe Hipp about a month prior and came in at 215 which was a good weight for him. Much like Ruiz coming into the first fight with Joshua after having just fought recently. Cooper Who I’ve seen you on occasion mention his fight with Sanders for example weighed in the 240’s vs Sanders. He had quite a bit of time to prepare for Michael Moorer and weighed 225. At 215 Cooper was in shape if he wasn’t he wouldn’t have been able to take that battering for seven rounds
     
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  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No - he didn't.


    He could not move, more like.


    Anybody with a dig would have had him out of there in no time. Johnson turned up to be beat.

    Vitali did what he had to do, but his performance was not particularly special.
     
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  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Cooper lasted 7 round vs Holfyield because Holyfield wasn't a puncher like Sanders was. Looking back 215 was a good weight for Cooper, who was just a journeyman with a some pop who was stopped 16 times. Cooper was stopped 5 times before facing Holyfield. He was a sub in who made some noise.

    Hipp is probably his best win at heavyweight.

    Either way such a opponent should not be able to trouble an ATG in his prime, which he did with Holyfield.
     
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    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Yes he did stop him in two rounds. "Vitali Klitschko 250 lbs beat Kirk Johnson 260 lbs by TKO at 2:54 in round 2 of 12
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You didn't say Vitali stopped him in two rounds, though.

    I'm quite aware Johnson was stopped inside of two rounds, by Vitali.


    “Specifics, Bob.”
     
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    Dominant against poor opposition.
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

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    Good job by both Vitali and Holyfield.I have a feeling that version of Cooper would obliterate the whale.Johnson would not be able to move much and Bert could clip him on the inside
     
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