Vitali Klitschko vs. Muhammad Ali

I agree that no one Vitali has faced compares to a prime Muhammed Ali or is in his class.

But then again, does anyone compare to a prime Muhammed Ali?

If we are using this criteria then the guys with the best chance of beating Ali would be:

Bob Fitzsimmons (beat Corbett)
Tom Sharkey (beat Corbett)
Jim Jeffries (Beat Corbett)
Joe Choynski (beat Prime Johnson)
Marvin Hart (beat Prime Johnson)
Micheal Spinks (beat Larry Holmes)
Mike Tyson (beat Larry Holmes)
Harry Greb (beat prime Gene Tunney)
Joe Frazier (beat close to prime Muhammed Ali)
Ken Norton (beat close to prime Muhammed Ali)

Do you give anyone else a chance?

 

Emphasis=mine:

If I remember correctly, a past his prime Ali won about 11 of 15 rounds in the Bugner fight. Those were the days when Ali would rest in some rounds to maximize his stamina. In his prime, if it had gone the distance, I believe Ali would have won about 14 or 15 of 15 rounds against Bugner.

 

I get the point you are breaking but....

- Corbett was past his prime by the time he fought Fitz, Shark, and Jeff. Corbett had not won a fight for SIX years prior to fighting Jeffries. Lastly, Corbett even on his best day is nowhere near as good as Muhammad Ali(At least imo).

- Joe Choynski did not beat a prime Johnson. He beat a 170lb kid version of Johnson. Not the 205lb chizzled man we later saw in 1908. The 1901 Jack Johnson does not compare to a prime muhammad ali.

- Beating a 36 year old Holmes in 1985 does not compare to a Prime Muhammad Ali.

- Beating a 38 year old Holmes in 1988 does not compare to a Prime Muhammad ALi

- Gene Tunney was a smaller, less durable version of Ali. Greb never beat Tunney when Tunney weighed in above 180lb. Ali was 6'3 212lb.



I like the point you are trying to make...but the examples you used were way off.

 

Look, Ali had trouble with good boxers. See the Doug Jones, Patterson, Norton, Young, and Lyle. In all stages of Ali's career he lost rounds multiple rounds to good out fighters who could jab.

Fact : Ali lost more rounds to Doug Jones, Blin and Mildenberger than Vitali has in his entire pro career.

Unlike Jones, and Young, Vitali had some serious size, activity and power.

Unlike Norton, Lyle, or Paterson, Vitali took a great punch.

Kenny Norton totally owned Ali, busted him up, and in my opinion might have scored a stoppage win ( watch the full 12 round fight ) if the match was 15 rounds. Don't give me crap that Ali was past his best as Norton defeated Ali before Ali beat either Frazier or Foreman!

In many ways, Vitali is Ali's toughest match up. The rope a dope would not work with him.

 

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My god,

Can't you just admit Vitali would get beaten?

 

Mendoza,

 

When a poster laughs, but can't debunk facts, I'm the one who 's

Fact : Ali lost more rounds to Doug Jones, Blin and Mildenberger than Vitali has in his entire pro career.

Unlike Jones, and Young, Vitali had some serious size, activity and power.

Unlike Norton, Lyle, or Paterson, Vitali took a great punch.

Kenny Norton totally owned Ali, busted him up, and in my opinion might have scored a stoppage win ( watch the full 12 round fight ) if the match was 15 rounds. Don't give me crap that Ali was past his best as Norton defeated Ali before Ali beat either Frazier or Foreman!

In many ways, Vitali is Ali's toughest match up. The rope a dope would not work with him.

 

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Why because I shortened my sentence...or because of my wisdom

 

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I love the way VITLAY takes a great punch, when in reality he's fought mostly bums, and the only 2 fighters that REALLY clocked him had him on ***** st (Lewis and Sanders)

Ali faced some of the most murderous punchers in HW history and never got KO'd, not once. VITLAY has lived in the weakest era in living memory and still managed to get stopped twice, once by a feather-fist atsch

Also, if you think the Ali that fought Frazier and Foreman was the best version of Ali then you've got a lot to learn about this sport my son.

 

Ali embarrasses Vitali. That sniper left hand low bend by the waist **** won't work with Ali.

Wlad, on the other hand gives Ali a much much better fight.

 

If you're talking about a prime Ali then...

Ali by ridiculously one sided decision.

 

Vitali versus '74 Foreman would have been a bit more intriguing.

 

Not really, Foreman by ownage. If VITLAY thought Sanders and Lewis hit hard then he's in for the night of his life against that version of Foreman. Foreman by KO inside of 3 rounds, and VITLAY would have been stuttering worse after this fight than he was after the Lewis fight, count on it.

 

Actually I agree with this....for as long as it lasted then WALDO would be pretty competitive I reckon. But 'that' chin won't last 12-15 rounds against a guy like Ali. I reckon Ali KO's WALDO after about 9 rounds but it would be relatively close on the cards (I know how important that **** is to Klit-lovers)