Vitali Klitschko vs Riddock Bowe

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  1. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Bowe, at the top of his game, wins a clear decision
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Bowe was only at the top of his game for a brief moment in time. And it took a fighter who liked to come forward as the smaller man in Holyfield to make him shine.

    Vs an out fighter, Bowe barely edged Tony Tubbs. Vitali is an out fighter like Tubbs, except he throws harder punches, and more punches in general.

    In another fighter vs a guy who used his legs, Bowe looked very poor vs .Donald. He won, but he looked rather exposed.

    Bowe was never good at defense, or boxing a mover. He said Herribe Hide hit him the hardest. He would be in for a shock once Vitali landed.
     
  3. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe learned from the Tubbs, Biggs, and Hide fight.
    Lets say the Bowe from the first Holy or Gonzalez fight.
    Bowe has the edge in technical and brawling ablity.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Vitali never beat a man as good as Holyfield and flat out quit in a fight. Bowe met good punchers like Gonzalez.Vitali's power is way overated.
     
  5. Azzer85

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    It took him 8 to do Danny Williams, a guy an Old Tyson nearly had out of there in the first round.

    Bowe takes Vitali into deep waters and then drowns him
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Did you ever see Gonzalez? He was a little stiff and tightly wound big man. I would not call him a " good puncher ". Who did he ever KO? Take note, a year later a past his Witherspoon and journeyman in Ross Purity KO'd the glass jawed Cuban in a similar amount of rounds. Than after that Mike Grant Ko'd him in 1 rounds. So much for your example.

    Who were the other punchers' Bowe fought? I would not call either Golota or Holyfield a big puncher, yet both floored and hurt Bowe. Vitali hits harder than these two ...easily. No debate here.

    You can call Hide a puncher. Vitali had a much easier time with him. Bowe said Hide hurt him. There is a reason Rock Newman never put Bowe in there with big punchers. Fights with Morrison, and Lewis were there.

    If you scan thought Vitali's resume, you will see he often Ko'd his man faster than anyone else did.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Azzer,

    Danny Williams said their power level was even! Don't confuse going for broke in round one with a tactical way of going about a fight. They are different.

    Vitali is a great later round fighter, and carries his power. It is Bowe who's in trouble.

    Did anyone in history stop Adamek, K Johnson, Solis, or Gomez or Arreloa faster than Vitali did? I think not.

    How about Purrity, Bean, and Donald, three iron chinned guys who play defense? VK stopped them.

    Who stopped Peter quicker, Vitali or Wlad?
     
  8. sauhund II

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    I like VK, class act, met him in person right before the Lewis fight and chatted with him for about 5 minutes at Golds Gym in Venice, I guess I was the only one that recognized him at a place filled with celebreties.

    Anyway, Bowe will bring the fight to VK similar that Lewis brought it, except Bowe does not get tired, has one of the best chins in boxing and has a real ghetto mean streak, you almost have to kill the guy to beat him. He will match VK on the outside and will murder him on the inside, think the Lewis uppercut applied X10 in every round. IMO, without the fan man, even a relative out of shape Bowe would have gone 3-0 with Holyfield.

    Bowe would turn it into a absolute physical war, no doubt, which IMO would result in either a TKO victory or a clear decision win.

    Any reasonable boxing insider knows that a Eddie Futch trained and motivated prime Bowe is a nightmare for ANYONE, win or loose.

    Another thing, Golata while having success upstairs kept going downstairs because he could not get Bowe off him, he could not take the heat of someone as determined As Bowe........no low blows and Golata quits or gets laid out. Fact. LOL, yeah he did quit....twice.
     
  9. brb

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    Vitali never struggled with Tony Tubbs or Andrew Golota. Vitali beat fighters that could probably beat both of them.

    Vitali's cumulative power is fantastic.
     
  10. brb

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    Bowe can't decisively beat Golota or Tubbs, but he is going to beat someone that is much bigger (height, weight, reach) and that has better boxing skills and chin then both of them? Not to mention he was in much better shape than either one of these guys.

    Doesn't make sense.
     
  11. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since you know the Golota fight so well, watch the 2nd fight again.
    One of the ugliest fights, in which Bowe is out on his feet for several
    rounds after getting nailed early with an equilibrium shot. Even if you have him
    hurt badly, Bowe is very difficult to stop. As far as Vitali being bigger, Bowe
    straight up walked through 6 foot 7 Gonzalez and mauled him in a beatdown.
    Riddick Bowe, a fighter like that, with a chin like that would eat Vitali's shots for
    breakfast. Vitalis getting stopped on cuts bro
     
  12. Phil_Ivey_76

    Phil_Ivey_76 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only way Bowe stops Vitaly is on cuts, which could well happen. However it's a 50/50 fight in my book. The VK that fought Lewis would lose to Bowe, but VK improved after that fight.
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

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    Vitali isn't a glass jawed Cuban Journeyman now is he??? Bowe got beaten into retirement by poor mans Klitschko Golota... He loses Vitali in a complete and utter Beatdown.
     
  14. Azzer85

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    Actually Williams didnt say that, he said they had different types of power, Vitalis made him go very numb whereas Tysons nearly put him to sleep.

    Ok then, taking your point,Tactically Vitali took 8 rounds to stop Williams, do you really think hes stopping Bowe who is levels above Williams?

    Bowe has been in the trenches as has Vitali, but one of them carries on fighting whereas the other, finds a quick exit.

    Adamek is a former LHW, he hadnt fought anyone that could actually punch until he fought Vitali. Do you think Tyson, Bowe and Lewis would take 8 rounds for a guy like Adamek?
    Arreola, once again, didnt fight anyone half decent until he fought Vitali.
    Please, dont give me that Solis KO1 crap, Solis is fat, he fell over and broke his knee, its hardly a Ko Vitali should be bragging about.

    Peter was dropped 3 times by Mcline, hardly the iron chinned warrior. Vitali didnt KO Peter, Peter just quit.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    I don't think Vitali was trying to stop Williams in round one. But Williams testimonial on their power is fine. Bowe had trouble talking punches from Golota and Holyfield, and barely out boxed ( some say lost to, not me ) Tubbs! ). Sure Bowe was a good in-fighter, but Vitali is not there to in-fight and was only hit hard once in his entire career by an uppercut vs. Lewis.

    I'm sorry, but VK is a better boxer than Tubbs as he hardly losses a round, and hits harder than Golota and Holyfield. Bowe isn't going to win on the cards, has the more suspect chin, and wasn't a great thinker in the ring either.

    Let's compare common opponents:

    How come Bowe could not stop Donald, yet Vitali did? How come it took Bowe 5 rounds to beat hide, when Vitlai beat him in two rounds?


    My point was VK stops his man faster than all of their previous opponents did is valid. That is not a fluke.