Vitali Klitschko vs Sonny Liston

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Vitali has fought noooooooooooooone. Fast forward to about the three minute mark. This is against a guy with one foot in the grave
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgAvar2NTE&feature=related[/ame]
     
  2. MRBILL

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    Good point..... Also, was Ali a good body puncher? Yet, we, well most of us, regard Ali as The Greatest........
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  3. MRBILL

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    Vitali Klit is a MONSTER!!

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    those people who argue these match-ups emphatically one way or the other need to find a hobby based somewhat more in reality.

    pitting two great fighters with enormous physical gifts in a mythical fight does by definition offer many tangents of possibility.

    whatever... boring.
     
  5. MRBILL

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    :thumbsup:deal:bbb:rasta:happy:good

    I LOVE IT! Yes, Janitor is VERY partial to OLD FART fighters from way back when America was on horseback to move about town........ Anything modern gets a big ZERO from him.... Why the bias???
    :huh:-:)blood

    Vitali Klit is a bad-ass Mother who could hold his ground well in ANY era from 1887 to 2010.........:thumbsup:hat

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  6. MRBILL

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    Again, screw the **** outta the resume...........:hat In a head-2-head match-up, I think V.K. kicks the **** outta MOST of all the prior heavies who ever boxed / fought dating back to 1887........ SERIOUS!
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    ****ing brilliant. post of the day, week, month and year.
     
  8. Fighting Weight

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    The Lewis fight was only 4-2 in the judges opinion....in reality it could easily have been scored 3-3 or even 4-2 to Lewis. That is the best fighter VITLAY ever faced and he was way over the hill.

    VITLAY was also down a round against Hide before he landed the KO blow, and he was staggered badly against Sanders (and Lewis) so this iron chin bull**** needs to be dropped from the argument. McCall had an iron chin...VITLAY isn't even close to that level of toughness as he's proven with his *****-quit job against Byrd, and his doctor-assisted quit-job against Lewis.

    Don't get me wrong, VITLAY might stand a chance in this fight, but it's a close one. A VERY close one, Liston was a real animal.
     
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    Lewis was NOT past his better days in 2003...... Lewis was more so a slob at 256 pounds.... All Lewis' fault there......... Lewis was fine and a killer just ONE year earlier in Tennessee against a shot Tyson.......... Lewis took Kevin Johnson / Vitali Klit lightly............. AGAIN! Lewis' fault..........

    I had Klit up 4 to 2 after 6 rds against Lewis in 2003............ Okay, yes, the cut occurred.... It happened..... That's boxing..... BUT! V.K. was kickin' some major ass in that epic battle on regular HBO..... V.K. has since proven his metal in every bout since then...........
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  10. Fighting Weight

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    That video is still ****ing hilarious to this day :rofl:rofl:rofl

    "VITLAY won the event"

    Yeah, right. With that face? I think not.
     
  11. Fighting Weight

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    All bull****.

    Lewis TKO6...fat slob and over the hill Lewis....

    Take from that what you will, and re-assess this so-called 'greatness' that you bestow on the bum that is VITLAY.

    "but.....he's TALL and HEAVY, he must be a great fighter, right?"

    **** it I'm out of here, can't be bothered :patsch
     
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    Like The Terminator said in the hotel room to the clerk in 1984: "**** You, *******!"
    :fire

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  13. Jear

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    Lets take a quick look at Vitalis "HUGE" size advantage

    LISTON KLITSCHKO
    6'1 HEIGHT 6'7
    215 WEIGHT 245
    84 REACH 80
    44 CHEST NML 46 1/2
    46 CHEST EXP 48
    17 1/2 BICEPS 17 1/2
    36 WAIST 35 1/2
    14 1/2 FOREARM 17
    17 1/2 NECK 18 1/4
    25 THIGH 23 1/4
    16 CALF 17
    8 1/2 WRIST 7 1/2
    15 FIST 11


    The height gives a rather misleading indicator as to the actual size of Liston.

    Sonny doesnt need to get inside to beat Vitali, his LONGER reach allows him to out jab Vitali from distance and if Klitschko adopts his usual jab and counterpunch style he will find that hes the one who needs to move into Listons range or he will be on the end of that lethal jab all night.

    Sonny either cuts Vitali to ribbons a la the only other guy with a comparable reach and decent skills has done or beats him down until the fight is stopped.
     
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    :lol:

    I must admit, you've encapsulated janitor to a T with that paragraph. :good
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    I'm not a hater at all.
    I'm just pointing out that Vitali isn't a real world heavyweight champion.
    Two men cannot be a real world champion at the same time. I think Wladimir's claim is stronger at the moment.