Vitali protecting Wlad's chin from HAYE

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  1. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    Which one of those two loser nerds in your avatar are you? I'm betting the bald one, right?
     
  2. FibreOptic

    FibreOptic Active Member Full Member

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    Or maybe Vitali is protecting Haye's chin from Wlad.
     
  3. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is training in Mallorca for the Rahman fight.

    And Vitali should retire and let his brother make his job.
     
  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd give Haye about a 15% chance with Wlad. They may be a little high, but something like that. I think he ends up like Calvin Brock, destroyed. His only chance would be to jump on Wlad early when Wlad could have some nerve issues. At this weight, David isn't going to beat Wlad in an endurance contest, nor is he going to be able to sit on the outside and throw shots (his reach is 3" less than Wlad's).

    So, he has to come to Wlad and try to hit him hard and fast before Wlad settles in and starts peppering Haye with jabs setting up right hands.

    David may be able to do it, but he has a number of factors working against him:

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    -- so if he caught a shot he would have a better chance of tying up than he did in the Brewster and Sanders fights (thanks, Manny Steward, who taught Lewis the same skill)

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    -- so no Purrity TKO's are likely (also not likely because of Haye's bulk, as mentioned above)

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    -- David does not have great footwork or defense, although he avoided Barrett pretty well last night. The difference with Wlad is he is a much better and bigger fighter than is Barrett, and he won't have to reach for Haye to be able to connect. If Haye sits on the outside, he eats jabs all night. If he comes in and doesn't quickly take Wlad out, he's very likely to eat leather with power behind it. And David doesn't have a Brewster or Peter chin

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    -- Wlad absorbed the rabbit punches from Peter, got KD'd three times and just went about his business and dominated the rest of the fight and won easily. No Sanders or Brewster fiascoes. Wlad is more steady with his mindset than in the past.

    I could see Haye dropping Wlad, and Wlad getting up as he did Peter and working over Haye and stopping him. This is why I think Haye would have to jump on Wlad quick and take him out before Wlad eventually lands some shots on David that are likely to end the fight.

    Wlad has fought guys much faster than Haye, like Chris Byrd. Haye's hands are quick but his feet aren't. Byrd's feet and hands were fast and we all saw how that turned out.

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    As everyone has pretty much said, Vitali would obliterate Haye. Only chance for Matrix is VK gets hurt or turns old in the ring. Most likely outcome is a stoppage win for Vitali probably mid-rounds when Haye is forced to come in (because shorter reach) and he's dropped with a counter and either stays down or takes shots against the ropes once he rises and the ref steps in.
     
  5. Stoic

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