Vitali vs Lennox: Post fight altercation

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  1. Mendoza

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    " HerolGee, tape doesnt cut noone. "

    >> You know zero about boxing if you think that. Why do you think ref's are so quick to stop the action when tape comes lose on a glove.


    vitali was prime. lewis was worrt ever. - HerolGee
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    Let me get this straight - lewis opted out, after seeing vitali struggle against a 38 year old retiree who wasnt good enough to challenge lewis when in his prime?

    just like every HW champion before him who was 38 or approaching that age. funny that. ACCORDING TO MENDOZA THEY WERE ALL WRONG TO RETIRE. - - HerolGee

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    Its too bad vitali wasnt good enough even slightly to contest a close decision to warrant a rematch.
    All it told us was vitali would get wrecked against ATGs. - HerolGee

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  2. mcvey

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    Tape doesn't cut you ,the reason loose tape is addressed and cut off is because of the danger of it flicking into an eye. It's that simple. Glove wrap tape is soft and necessarily pliable .
    Sorry but it's you who has exposed himself as being the ignorant one on this subject!
     
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  3. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Nah. Lewis had to fight differently because Vitali was faster and had the reach.

    Lewis had to put on his ear muffs and step into his punches. He was also looking to use his weight advantage by clinching, pushing, and wrestling.

    It was ugly but not due to incompotence, it was smart strategy from Stewart. Lewis would have lost a one sided fight if he tried to box Vitali like he was any other opponent.
     
  4. mcvey

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    Vitali was already in training to fight Cedric Boswell on the same day as a supporting fight on the same card.

    Boswell is 6'3" Lewis was due to fight Kirk Johnson who is 6'2" Lewis had to make more of an adjustment because he was going from a 6'2" opponent to one who is 6'7".
    Lewis had been on Vitali's radar for years.
    Vitali was 32 years old bang in his prime, Lewis was 37 past his..
    Vitali had fought Larry Donald 7 months earlier, Lewis had not fought for a year.
    Vitali came in weighing 248lbs just 1.25lbs more than for the Donald fight. Lewis at a career heaviest 256.5lbs 6.25lbs more for his previous fight against Tyson.
    Vitali had nearly 70 stitches inserted into his face , he was beaten and the stoppage was eminently correct ,and it was from a right hand punch as the video confirms.


    "The fight between Lewis and Klitschko was to take place in December 2003, and Klitschko signed for a tune-up fight on 21 June 2003 as part of the undercard of Lewis' fight with Kirk Johnson for the IBO title, as the WBC would not sanction the fight for their title. Johnson, however, pulled out of the fight due to injury and Klitschko, due to his being in training for a fight on the same day as Lewis, took the fight on short notice. Immediately after he accepted, the WBC elected to sanction the fight as a title match and Lewis' The Ring title was also up for grabs in addition to his lineal title.

    Klitschko, a 4–1 underdog, dominated the early going with many harder punches. He stunned Lewis in the second round with two hard rights, leaving a cut under on Lennox's left eye.[29] In the third, Lewis landed a big right hand that opened a deep cut above Klitschko's left eye.[29] Before the seventh round, the ringside doctor inspected the wound and deemed it severe enough to threaten eye damage if struck again, stopping the fight despite Klitschko's pleas to continue. Klitschko was ahead on all three judges' scorecards 58–56 (4 rounds to 2) at the time of the stoppage, but because the wound was a result of punches from Lewis, Lewis won by technical knockout."
    No more excuse and spin . A past prime, career heaviest Lewis won, Vitali lost END OF!
     
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  5. manbearpig

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  6. HerolGee

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    he is literally collapsing into lennox, using his elbow to try to trap him so as to try to land an ineffective, amateur (and very cheating) hail mary haymaker.

    instead he should have been defending his eye and keeping away.

    If lewis was so tired, why didnt vitali simply back off and outlast him from round4 onwards if he was so capable of lasting?

    terrible tactics.


    Reality is, if lewis, biding his time and seeing vitali had failed, hadnt been there to lean on, vitali would have been on the floor.




    when you write "actually", do u know what the word means? u r differentiating between terminator face and a bump on a nose!
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Remind us what was the result of the second Vitali vByrd fight ?
     
  8. Howitzer1888

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    Such a great fight. The ending was unfortunate but the fight couldn't go on. The cut was terrible, one of the worst I've seen. Lennox proved that, even when old and out of shape that he could hang with the best of the following era. Vitali still did more in those first 6 rounds, however.
     
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  9. Smokin Bert

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    I

    I disagree. Between Lewis' poor conditioning, and Vitali's amateurish style, the level of skill was below what should be expected in a Heavyweight title fight. (I understand that those standards have only continued to plummet in the years since.) People routinely malign Buster Douglas as a lucky "one hit wonder." I recommend you watch Douglas against Tony Tucker. Similar to Vitali vs Lewis, it is a contest between two legitimate Super Heavyweights. But, that is where the similarities end. Both Tony Tucker and Buster Douglas show far more skill, athleticism, and conditioning than either Vitali or Lennox. It is a highly skilled, highly competitive fight that puts Lewis-Klitschko to shame. Either one of those men would have had their way with the versions of Vitali and Lennox that fought each other.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Vitali was in front but fading imo.
     
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  11. Howitzer1888

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    Yeah I agree. Problem was I don't think Lennox would have been in good enough shape to capitalise on that.
     
  12. sauhund II

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    I dont buy into it that Lemmie was out of shape, it was a very sloppy, minimal skill mauling ugly affair but fairly fast paced...........no out of shape fighter goes 6 in the above scenerio and stops his opponent. The added 5-6 pounds probably helped him in all the mauling, clinching and rough stuff.

    It is true that Lewis actively pursued a Tyson rematch and a Roy Jones fight while he avoided re matching TKO6...the proof is in the pudding, he retired as soon as TKO6 became mandatory after he harpooned the Canadian Humpback whale.

    But the fight does illustrate that operating on the very highest level VK's body aint holding up and his skill level /Ring IQ aint good enough to win when faced with adversity .

    His comeback fight with no tune up against Sam Peter is impressive but nevertheless both K brothers are more remembered for their losses than their wins.
     
  13. janitor

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    Lewis essentially gave Vitally two chances at the lineal title.

    First he granted him a title shot.

    Then he retired, effectively handing it to him on a plate, or so i seemed.

    Whatever happened after that, is not down to Lewis.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    It was entertaining but skill wise pretty horrible.
     
  15. Wass1985

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    I always thought the laces caused the cuts, could be wrong though.