Vitali's comeback. Impressive.

OK, maybe the Byrd fight is a loss but not the Lewis fight. In both fights it was injury rather than legitimate TKO that did Vitali in.

 

lennox lewis beat the **** out of him... SOOO BADLY that the doctor had to stop it! If you have a fight with someone and get your face smashed in SO bad you need over 20 stitches to fix you up, would you really claim you werent beaten?!?!

Lennox at his WORST beat vitali at his BEST! END OF STORY!

 

Lennox is so much better than Vitali Klit.

 

Lennox (ATG 3 or 4) has the same number of losses, and both far more decisive.

And they were to two guys who weren't close to being the best HE ever faced.

Vitali's comeback can be ranked with Foreman's. (Not quite as good. Yet !)

He took on the champ without working his way back up over a lorry-load of bums. And he re-won his title much more decisively than by way of a single punch.

If Big George's was great, Vitali's is at least very good.

 

WAS is the word you want here.

And there's little doubt Lennox was better.

 

Like Rahman ?

Most agree that ATG Duran's quittage was worse.

It depends on who's doing the assessment. If Haye grows a set and faces him (sometime before he needs a cane), that assessment could improve considerably.

He made a decision to save his career rather than win a fight he had in the bag and probably expected to get the opportunity to avenge.

 

Newbie, you're embarrassing us Klitschko fans.

He has two losses.

And the more legitimate loss was to Lennox. When a guy opens up your face like that and by way of punches, that's a legit stoppage. A TKO. A loss.

I would quibble considerably regarding his retirement against Byrd, in a fight that he had overwhelmingly put in the bag.

But even that too must be considered a loss.

 

Not remotely in the same category.

And if it needs to be explained for you, then you wouldn't have the wit to grasp the distinction.

 

This gem is too trollesque to merit a response.

I expect you already know where it fails.

 

Vitali is a great fighter, and the comeback is impressive. All of that being said, he had more work to do if he wants people to remember him in the same breath as the first tier greats. If he can't get Haye in the ring, he should re-cosnder retirement and run up a record impressive in quantity. And nomore Ssonowskis. I like the Pole, but Vitaly needs to be fighting proven guys- Haye, Valeuv, Tua, Adamek, Chagaev...

 

Yes and no.

Lennox won, and he did it decisively. Whether you knock someone unconscious, or punch them so hard that you start to strip the flesh from the front of their skull... you have beaten them thoroughly.

But the "worst" Lennox versus the "best" Vitali? That's revisionist history. Lennox fans or Vitali haters love to bleat on and on about how unmotivated Lennox was - but they refuse to even mention how Vitali took the fight at a moment's notice.

The worst Lennox lost to Rahman and McCall. The worst Lennox would have lost to Vitali too. Unless you are seriously trying to say that Rahman and McCall were better that Vitali? In which case you are too ignorant to contribute to a boxing discussion.

 

Indeed. I've heard people say Vitali couldn't win 1 in 10 against Lewis. So, Rahman and McCall are 1-1 but Vitali couldn't manage 1-9 or better. There's not liking a guy, then there's just ridiculous bias or stupidity.

 

Wladimir is by far the better of the two. He fights the better opponents, better skills, better footwork and so on... and Wlad fights his way back to the top!!

Wladimir is The Champ at the Heavyweight division!

Vitali lost against Lewis, but never accept the loss or shows a little respect against this great boxer.

 

Hmm. I've heard they even hang out together now. Don't know if it's true, but that is what I've heard. I've also heard Vitali saying Lewis hit harder than anybody else in the world.

 

Yep, and odds are those guys never even saw the fight. It was a war, and if the cut hadn't opened on his face I guess Vitali had a very good chance of winning. And I'm a big, big LL fan and at prime he would have won 3 out of 4 I guess. Don't forget Lewis retired because he knew he couldn't win the rematch.
And bringing up the Byrd loss, like Byrd himself had a major part of Klit losing. Byrd contibution to that is he was still on his feet after the beating he took. I always found it strange why Vitali didn't box out the 3 remaining rounds one armed because if he lost all 3 he still would won a UD, and Byrd can't KO him. I guess the pain was too much at the time, but still strange. Only here I read posts like Byrd 'made' Klit quit.