Vlad won the WBA title in the ring from Chagaev

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  1. champ1

    champ1 Member Full Member

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    Who the **** cares for the heavyweight division any way? its in a **** state...



    Haye v Klitscho or Cotto v Pac I know what fight id rather watch and Im english
     
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  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    It is a well known fact that the people in charge of the WBA were paid off by the interests of other managers and influenced not to put the WBA crown on the line in the Wlad vs. Chagaev fight.....even though Chagaev won the title in the ring.

    The WBA knew Wlad would defeat Chagaev, and that did not sit well with Universum, Sauerland, or Frank Warren.
     
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    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    WTF has Frank Warren got to do with anything?
     
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  4. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well known fact?

    Chagaev didn’t defend his title against anyone in 2 years.
    Then they should accept unification couple of weeks after failing medical in mandatory title match?

    Also everyone knew they were going to strip him after the failed medical. At that point Wladimir was not involved anyway and was still suppose to be fighting against Haye.
     
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  5. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well spoken!
     
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  6. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
     
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  7. Jeff Young

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    chagaev best performance was against valuev.....but lets be real the WBA heavyweight title is a joke.....back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.....on who REALLY is the WBA champ.....but IMO haye is the WBA champ....due to chagaev being a sick man....and inactivity....
     
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  8. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It has been proven that Chagaev is not sick. I believe those German physicians. Don King and Sauerland stole the title from him in the name of their god - money. It was not fair but many things happen in the world today that are unjust and unfair. Chagaev never lost the title in ring so he was the real WBA champion. He wanted to fight Valuev but Don King and Sauerland did not allow Valuev to fight him. I think that Valuev should have condemn them for that move. He probably thought that it was in his interest to prolong his reign. He was naive because they betrayed him so quickly afterwards. They just wanted to secure a smooth transition of the title to the more marketable fighter - David Gaye.
     
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  9. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chagaev was not sick and Valuev refuses to fight him.

    Chagaev never lost his belt.

    And Valuev refuses to fight Wlad on 20the of june.
     
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  10. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    German doctors had same result as the Finnish docs had.


    He was sick but German boxing commission does not have as strict rules about hepatitis as Finland commission has.
     
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  11. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Chagaev was not sick after all!
     
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    :lol: :rofl
     
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  13. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was sick but German boxing commission does not have as strict rules about hepatitis as Finland commission has.
     
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    Quoted for truth.
     
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  15. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Sauerland and Valuev knows this. Chagaev fought Valuev in the first fight so why was Sauerland going to Finnland? Because they never wanted a fight against Chagaev because they knew Valuev would lost the second time against him.

    Today the WBA has Chagaev on No. 1. T
     
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