Is Silva the second person to get some unfair stick and calls for retirement. No doubt, they are no longer eliter players and physically past their best but should fighters like Silba and Ortiz still get cut if they can mix it with the best but not win them all? I agree that Wand is past his best and his punch resistance is not what it was but on paper he doesn't warrant to be cut, even going into the Le fight. The Le fight was almost set up to get him out of the UFC cos Le can brutalise people in style. Thankfully Wand was smart in his approach. On paper in the UFC I don't think he is as bad as many make out... Chuck - great fight but he lost Jardine - brutal win Jackson - he got caught like many can by Jackson Franklin - close loss Bisping - awesome win Leben - brutal ko that Leben can do to many Le - awesome win