Wake up: V. Klit is a solid top-10 ATG!

Puzzles you, doesn't it? He's not even the best in his family.

 

For all the boxing you watched, you haven´t learned much from it.

 

By the same token, Joe Louis is even further above the likes of Albert Sosnowski, Herbie Hide or Sam Peter.

 

Personally, I don´t think Vitali is better than Carnera - and certainly not more accomplished.

 

Liston had already cleaned out his era before he became champion. When did Vitali ever come close to cleaning out his era? There is no justfication for rating VK over Liston, h2h or accomplishments.


VK isn't a top 20 heavyweight of all time, in my opinion.

 

Louis destroys Vitali early. Mismatch.

 

Too late, sorry.

 

Liston would destroy Vitali and is top 10 ATG HW, Vitali is just top 30. :good

I agree, I think his fans are being cruel wanting Vitali to get brutalized by The Brown Bomber.

 

Well, doubt remains still over the nature of the 2nd fight, and in the first, Liston wasn't off his feet but quit, claiming a shoulder injury. By the same token, Vitali quit over a shoulder injury when in a far better position against Byrd than Liston against Ali.

 

I can't even tell you how my anus is reacting to this. It's like a clenching and an uncomfortable and completely non-sexual fluttering and then it burns a little bit and then it moves into my scrotum and I start to get mad. The kind of mad that can only result from uncomfortable sensations in your anus and scrotum. I just ...:twisted::twisted::twisted: