Warren goes off on Whyte's lawyer

I reckon Fury and Warren are rattled. This is their show but Whyte isn't playing along and that's leaving a lot of plans frustrated, (Fury's antics at pressers etc...).
This will mean a lot of burned up emotional / psychological energy and a building sense of uncertainty. Just listen to the more hysterical Fury fans squealing already.
It may not mean a thing come the first bell but Whyte and his team are playing this beautifully.

 

Hearn is coming across as a petty bitter loser saying that it is funny that they are giving Fury and Warren the run around. Mick Conlan helped promote the Wood fight even though his promoter lost the bid so this is just pathetic stuff from Whyte and Matchroom. I used to defend Eddie but I can see why now other big promoters think he is a twat. Is this a precedent they are trying to set? Should all B sides who only get 20% or less not show up to pressers and not help promote fights. It seems they are just trying to sabotage the show because they lost the purse bid. I wouldn't be surprised if the fight doesn't go ahead.

 

You are right there.
They are all as bad as each other.
Like a bunch of politicians more interested in undermining each other than doing the greater good

 

Not sure what it has to do with matchroom? As far as I’m aware they are a promotional company and not a management one.

 

One big difference. Hearn paid Conlan for the press conferences and provided travel and hotels where required. Warren did not want to pay Whyte then when Whyte said he’d consider it. He was told they would give him 4 tickets on a Ryanair flight. Whyte is essentially being asked to step on a flight and jeopardise his position with Covid rife currently. He requested the jet. Was refused and then when he said he wouldn’t be attending Warren agreed to the jet 48 hours before the presser. Whyte is in camp and has his whole camp planned out. So he’s decided to not attend.

both sides are being difficult. Warren and Arum didn’t want to give Whyte more than $6m in the negotiation period. Whyte called the bluff went to pursebids but only signed a bout agreement not a fight contract. Meaning he’s only required to attend the fight week presser, weigh in and fight itself.

Hearn has literally nothing to do with it

 

Big time. For the fight to break even they need effectively 1.5m buys at £24.99 in UK or 100k buys in the US and 1.2m buys in UK.

both of those are going to take a massive effort and really need Whyte to participate. I expect Whyte to come to fight week presser and no comment everything or sit in silence. And Fury to try and do something big to help Frank like give Whyte a slap.

 

Not the same thing at all. It's not just about the purse, there are other issues as well.

 

ah Dean “Whyte” the fountain of all knowledge

 

What about sponsorships and global TV rights + 90k-100k gate? It breaks even a lot lower than that!

 

The gate will be between £8-10m. Sponsorships and global tv outside of US and UK will be approx £3-5m. Converting the $41m Warren paid to £ gives you approx £32m. If you take the mid range figure of £9m and £4m it leaves £19m need d to be generated from US and UK PPV. Given US providers take 40% cut of PPV and UK take 35% it’s a lot of PPVs

 

People in Denmark, Finland, Norway & Sweden will watch Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte on the pay per view channel ViaPlay. Sky Arena pay per view is New Zealand and Main Event pay per view channel is Australia.

As long as the Press do their job in those countries the money will flow in.

Keep in mind leading up to Fury vs Whyte BT Sport will advertise the fight on all Premier league, Champions league, Europa league & French League & maybe during UFC fights (Not sure on that) BT will pump it out on ALL social media platforms aswell.

A tweet early from Dillian Whyte would of helped with promotion.

Whats interesting is Arsenal vs Manchester United happens on that day (April 23rd) at mid day on BT Sport - so the players might stay in London and attend the fight - and of course they will Tweet about it and that's where it could take off (Trending etc)

Bob Arum will do his thing for the American fight fans - Youtube, social media, rappers will Tweet about the fight, adverts in the newspapers - Skip & Shannon will debate about the fight.

 

Oh I agree there will be plenty of buzz. No fight has ever done close to a million buys on BT. A UK PPV has not sold more than 50k buys in the US in the last 20 years if not longer. Those territories all contribute but you would be shocked how little either the boys are or how much of it goes back to the fight budget. You only have to look at how many great US fights end up on fite tv last minute in the UK as they end up buying it in on a great split and for a discount.

I’m not saying it can’t be done and it won’t do well but it’s going to take a massive effort to get the fight to breakeven, a massive part of that would have been getting dillian on side and participating. Paying him £200k to do some media would have been well worth it. It’s an amazing fight and I think in the UK it will do well over a million buys but in the US and ROW it’s going to be uphill. Particularly with no content to use on Whytes side

 

Well it's all interconnected. They were disadvantaged going into the purse bid by the 80/20 ruling (which Fury's side had a hand in).

My position is the guidelines are there to protect the boxers (and the org itself). Especially the B-side.

No mandatory challenger should be getting 20/80. They worked their way into position. If the A-side doesn't like the fact they have to pay a fair split as per guidelines they are fighting under, then they should drop the belt.

Orgs bending to appease the A-side and their promoters just makes a joke of the sport

Now if a fighter chooses to negotiate with a star-name boxer to sign for less than the guideline amount that is their perogative.

But getting on side with throwing guidelines out the window and screwing over the B-side boxers... Not for me thanks

Personally, I think Kobashi summed up this thread perfectly: