Was Dirrell faking it???

read his argument again. there is a challenge in there. no one has addressed it. his argument was laid out quite clearly.

 

Look at this dudes location. Holland. You know what horse he had in the race.

1. Abraham was losing the fight in the 11th, Dirrell wasnt hurt, he was boxing just like had done before, with a little more movement obviously willing to see the fight out to a decision.

2. Dirrell wasnt hurt by Abrahams straight right, which was more to do with his foot tripping Dirrell then the actual power from the shot. Dirrell immediately got up and began boxing Abraham.

3. What saved Abraham was the stoppage in the 9th to check his wound. That gave him ample recovery time while stopping the bleeding, which up in that point was causing him to get his ass kicked.

 

straw man argument and sarcasm.

nobody is saying that Griffin faked and nobody needs to. the case of Dirrell does not rest upon that at all.

 

You wouldn't know. Very sad. I took out just enough brain 'to win'. It wasn't much, but it was enough. You are desperately seeking out posts to reinforce what you want to believe and ignoring fact. Fact. AA is a dirty cheat and a coward. He said he won by KO in the post ring interview because AD wasn't all the way down when he hit him. This one really isn't hard.

 

Stovepipe, I'm beginning to wonder about you. I did read Chris's post. Allow me to quote:

"Go ahead and show me a knockout where one guy is out cold/convulsing and it was a delayed reaction. It happens next to never. You're either struggling to get up while able to break your fall a bit, or out cold without being able to give a "wtf" look and grab your head to signal that you got hit illegally."

Hermit has done us all the service of presenting a YouTube video showing Montel get hit, pause, make a funny face, think to himself, look at the ref, and then fall down and go night-night.

Now, you're in a bit of a corner. You're only way out is to say Montel was faking too. You're welcome to that argument. It's not a very good argument. But id you were to adopt it, I would not be surprised.

 

personal attacks on the arguer don't negate his argument, which you have failed to address here. These points you make above are highly debatable but really just a distraction from the argument chris has made and the challenge he put forth.

 

His only argument is that Dirrell must have been faking because of the delayed reaction from the punch.

He fails to address how a fighter would plan something like that only having 1 second to react.

You nor him have explained Dirrells convulsions, spasming and behavior after the fight.

After the fight he was clearly disorientated.

Again your entire argument hinges on this never occuring before. You have been proven wrong. You have nothing.

 

I read that thread and I don't agree with your interpretation but again its another story and a distraction here. More failure to address.

 

Stovepipe, can I ask you to speculate?

Do you think leg-trembling and fake-spasming is taught at Kronk gym "just in case"?

 

Griffin didn't pick his spot to fall, he fell on his face, Griffin didn't go into convulsions and pop right back out and roll over.
Where are the videos of guys having a delayed reaction and then going into convulsions and then popping right back out of it?

 

The implication here is that it would have to be planned out and practiced, that doesn't need to be proven and doesn't negate the argument.

 

AA clearly states he doesn't understand why he didn't win by KO since in his mind Dirrell was not all the way down when he hit him. So, when AA feels he should win by KO how does he go to 'actor'? Saurland through him a life line and he grabbed it. If AA thought he got the KO, that is good enough for me. He is the KO expert. He was there. He delivered the shot. He saw Dirrell go out. What more is there to say?

 

Dirrell didnt pop right back out. He was out on his back, he rolled over because he was in ****ing dreamland.

 

stovepipe, you're moving the goal post. First you said delayed reactions never occur with KOs. Now, you're backpedaling, furiously. Now it you're saying that AD recovered too quickly.

Every time you change you're story we have to go to Youtube and find a counter example and you'll say "sure, but Dirrell scratched his face 3 times and his leg was at a 13 degree angle, show me ONE time that has happened!"

This is called goal post moving. You're changing your story each time your previous story is demolished by facts. It indicates a low degree of intellectual integrity, I'm afraid.

 

Lets keep it civil. Even if we are on different sides of an argument no need to get nasty.
Hermit posts outstanding stuff and makes great contributions to this forum all the time. I just disagree with him and some of the others here, on this one.