Was Dirrell faking it???

Maybe Dirrell ought to take a lie detector test to attempt to clear his name.

The argument that it is all moot since AA deserved the DQ is based on the idea that Dirrell did not massively oversell the punch. Therefore, Dirrell's sincerity or acting job are hihgly relevant to the question of DQ. Unless you are of the opinion that any late blow should lead to auto DQ.

Notice I am not condoning late blows of any kind. Especially not focused power shots with bad intentions against a downed opponent. But was this that? Abraham knows the answer. So does Dirrell.

It will be interesting when these two men look each other in the eyes again. Abe knows how much was on that punch, Dirrell knows the truth about his reactions. If indeed Dirrell is lying, and the evidence (factual not emotional) shows no precedent for what happened, this is going to be a helluva thing to carry around inside yourself and lie about for the rest of your life. Ugh. Every day it is going to gnaw another piece of his soul away until he comes clean.

 

He shouldn't have thrown the punch. That's a given.

However, what do you think was lowered on him? A solid punch? Look at that youtube video and tell me again anything got lowered on him. That punch glanced, didn't make full contact and had little behind it. It wasn't a KO punch. Abraham made full contact numerous times before and didn't hurt Dirrell.

Conversely, look at the shot RJJ leveled Griffin with. The trajectory of the punch and RJJ's weight crossed with Griffin's head. That is a KO punch. Not this garbage.

 

No.

 

There is just something about Dirrells character that strikes me that he would do that and go to those lengths to fake it is all.

 

People read into things what they want to read and shut anything else out. Even if they aren't aware of it.

Me being an American I can say straight up that was an act. That punch had nothing on it from where Dirrell was positioned.

Every extension outside of that path means less and less power. Hooks do generate a lot of power but once they extend beyond their trajectory the punch loses much of its steam.

Lets compare this punch to the punch that actually floored Dirrell in the 10th. Abraham stepped right into it and made full contact with Dirrell's head. That is the same punch that put Taylor in the hospital for a week. That punch hurt Dirrell. This one didn't. Big difference also in the reactions.

 

My god, Dirrell really said this?

Even if people say that I was acting, or taking a dive,

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, and that was 100 percent true, he brought that disqualification on himself. He did that. A lot of people are judging my character when they should be judging his.

Wow. It sounds to me like he is already having a hard time living with what he did and trying to tell himself his opponent did something worse and the fight was effectively over before he acted so it doesn't matter.

 

The MRI Doesn't Lie.

so he didnt have a concussion from the KO ok that happens RARELY but it happens...but to have a seizure induced by a ko and STILL no concussion? someones not telling then truth.

 

if there is no precedent of a delayed ko'd guy looking up and grabbing his face, picking a spot to fall, retaining motor skills to have his hands up to his face once down, losing consciousness and convulsing and regaining just as quickly to roll over and get up and freak out, surely there must be some precedent of a guy getting a delayed KO and convulsing and coming up with a clean MRI, right?

what are some examples of at least that?

 

Someone has no medical credentials. The doctors would not have allowed this fight to continue. This is painfully obvious to even the most causal observer if you didn't turn off your TV set too early. End of.

 

pardon? iam talking about AFTER the fight.

 

What did Dirrell have to win by faking a KO? He was well in ahead on the cards he was giving your man a beating. Why would he need to fake a KO for? He even said it himself what Abraham did took shine off his victory, instead of celebrating the win in the ring he had to celebrate in the hospital.

Montell Griffin. It has been shown to you already, I dont understand why you're struggling with this.

Sorry bud, if you're argument is that it has never happened like that in history its an extremely poor one. I could say that nobody in the history of the sport has been KO'd like Ricky Hatton, I've never seen a fighter hit that flat, throw his arms over his head and then bring them back down. He must have been faking. :rofl

Btw, its obvious Dirrells movement while KO'd was involuntary, if you actually had analyzed the footage properly then you'd know that his leg was still stiff when he rolled over, he was in dream land, fighters move all the time while knocked out, some even attempt to get up.

What you are postulating is that within the 1 second of time that Dirrell hit the ground, that he had time to pull of one of the greatest acting jobs in history.

- Labored breathing


- Spasming of the chest muscles


- Waist twitching while the right leg is completely stiff sticking straight out like card board.

- Rolling over, while at the same time keeping his extremities stiff, if he was truly aware of what he was doing he would have positioned himself with his legs and arms like most people do when the roll over. I know when I role over in bed I dont make the process more difficult by stiffening my extremities. :rofl

Umm no. Montell Griffin is a perfectly good example. Both delayed reaction KO's how they acted after the fact is meaningless, it clearly shows that delayed KO's do happen and that Dirrell is another example of one.

Whether he spasmed, stiffened his legs or acted after the KO is immaterial

Thats utter bull****. I've seen many a fighter clown around in the ring post fight after being KO'd.

Hell look at Ricky Hatton when he was KO'd by Mayweather

"I foogin slipped"

Clowning to the crowd.

I could probably name a million examples of fighters bahaving like this. The reason they most of the time act subdued is because they've just been knocked the **** out. They are pissed they lost. Hell I remember Cherry Koing one of Roger Mayweathers boys, he was crying like a baby after the fight, he'd just lost.

You clearly dont have the qualifications to summarize what fighters can and cant do while KO'd or after being Ko'd so lets end that sht right there. :good

Well to answer your question, anyone with a brain.

The CT scan proved no lasting damage, concussions arent noted as one doctor with actual qualifications unlike you has explained already.

And Hatton was knocked the **** out harder then anyone I've seen in the ring. Yet he was partying in vegas a few days later.

Again you dont seem to understand that people respond differently, not ever situation is the same, infact they are rarely ever the same.

Jermain Taylor got knocked out but also smashed his head against the canvas. Which probably resulted in the extra damage, not to mention him being knocked out several times before

Post a youtube vid of yourself doing it. I wanna see you spasm your chest muscles, labor your breating, twitch your waist at the same time as you are stiffening your legs.

Until you do that, you're just full of **** really.

Not really. Your "circumstantial evidence" is the same as me saying that no high rise building in the history of the world has been brought down down by fire so 9/11 was a controlled demolition.

Frankly its nonsense. We have shown you Griffins KO. He reacted basically the same way Dirrell did, he looked up, then slumped over KO'd. You say your argument is that they didnt behave the same way while KO'd, when reality thats just you moving the goal posts because you had been proven wrong.

 

Dirrell was the one cheated out of a point. Abraham was getting wild and open to counters. The cut could have been worsened.

 

And there it is ladies and gentleman. Why this man is behaving the way he is.

"If Dirrell was faking it, then that means my guy was going to win and got cheated"

He even has to put "im not condoning Abrahams actions" to try and sound impartial. :rofl

Hilarious. Some people just cant take a clear loss with dignity.

 

Abraham has been fighting that way for years. He's not going to change now. The difference is this wasnt some bum, or some fighter that played into his game plan. This was a classic boxer, a classic slick boxer with pop in his punches, and really thats all it took. Abraham is not gonna become a 2 trick pony after being a 1 trick pony for years.

I really dont understand what you are trying to say. If you wanna say something just say it capice.

Dirrell was hurt, he didnt even grab his jaw, he grabbed his head, he even said in an interview, I thought he hit my temple, most likely he had a headache from his brain banging against his skull.

The drama was a young fighter believing he'd been KO'd and after being told that he won, believing he had not gotten the victory he deserved.

Now why would a fighter say something like that if he was indeed acting?

 

when you cannot refute the argument attack the arguer...