was Edwin Valero good? (tragic ending)

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Old enough to have seen Pacman get his clock cleaned at various divisions...That combined with the take no-compromise approach mentality of Edwin Valero...the most likely outcome is Pacman laying down face-down or up in the ring or anywhere they meet

    Rustico Torrecampo @112
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    Nedal Hussein @122
    Agapito Sanchez @122
    Juan Manuel Marquez @HGH

    Based of facts, Pacman there is alot of evidence that Pacman might not be able to take what Valero has to offer, on the other hand Edwin Valero at 130 was invincible & when he was badly cut...He fought a perfect game & remained in control as if nothing happened at all...
     
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  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yes. While the cult of Ibeabuchi can over hype the guy by quite a bit - there's definitely reason to believe that the guy had a fairly high ceiling. Just don't see him as this H2H monster or potential-ATG that many do. But it's not ridiculous to assume that he would have been a factor for another decade or so had he stayed healthy mentally and physically... Was honestly looking forward to his comeback - sucker for that kind of stuff!
     
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  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He could have improved though with the right trainer and management. He had the attributes to improve and provide explosive fights. Too bad he was yet another victim of a pathetic woman.
     
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  5. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    we will never no.

    he just got a semi big fight vs demarco. he was gonna get a big fight.

    from what i seen he was relentless and full of energy . with his youth an confidence he was a handful for everyone and not to mention his game changing power that we think he has . which there is proof if guys like mikey say he hit harder then anyone.
     
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  6. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac vs Valero would have been epic-
     
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  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    His power was on the level of say Golovkin. Very heavy handed, but you cant point greatness his way simply because he never fought anyone of real note. In fact his resume is loaded with only C level and below competition.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Seriously underrated fighter
    And his skills are dismissed as he is a horrible chunt
    Loved his aggressive style
    He was high and hungover most of the time
    Can take the kid out of the street but you can't take the street out of the kid I'm afraid
    His whole life was one big fight
     
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  9. Russell

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    Shame he didn't come along several years earlier, so we could have seen him sparked out numerous times by the legitimate top tier fighters at the weight.
     
  10. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Typical peasants talking down about dead ruthless tyrants (now that they are gone)...Its the weak peasant syndrome...Lots of guys are still stalking David Chase...they never got to see the Anti-Hero get sparked :frown:

    Edwin Valero kicked everybody's teeth in two divisions, no judge was able to do any work with El Terminator

    Everybody cheered Edwin Valero when he was showing very clear signs of disturbed mentality, bad haircuts, abnormal eye language & sadistic sparring sessions, constant beat downs of males & females who don't comply, when he did what beasts naturally do...the peasants became shocked & disgusted

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  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol, yes, that's absolutely where I was going with that. Thanks for the internet analysis bull**** brah. Very edgy and smart.
     
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  12. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It’s called mental illness — *******!!!
     
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    Ronnie Raygun Active Member banned Full Member

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    Anyone who kills his wife no good
     
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he'd have been to much for Morales , Pacman would have had to move