Only on ESB Classic can a discussion of Jack Dempsey become a full-blown discourse within the area of Moral Philosophy. Tractatus Ethica Puglistica
Absolutely BB!!! We're on the same page here...hey one of my favorite fighters, Carlos Monzon, was a brutal, horrid individual...Sonny Liston stuffed people in garbage cans...I could go on and on about great fighters whose work I admire so much who were complete failures or were complete failures as individuals outside of the ring..these realities I consign to the big "OH WELL..." file of life. This modern day selfrighteousness that the sports lefties in ESPN and other "enlightened" media types and some fans as well exhibit sickens, disgusts and finally enrages me. Just think of all the threads wasted on the subject of whether Gene Tunney, Jack Dempsey, Tommy Loughran, etc., were either "racist" or folloed a "color line"....these men aren't around today to defend themselves and meanwhile, the old double standards keep going on...and I remember sooo many things that good ol' warm and fuzzy Muhammad Ali was on record for saying back in the 60's that were as downright racist as coulod be...all while the idiot leftist white media was busy kissing his ass. i use Ali as an example...well he sure mellowed out and became quite the opposite in his views I would say in later years...well good for him..let bygones be bygones then..and the same should hold true for all these long dead greats that everyone seems to want to exhume to trash and besmirch...and again, they aren't around anymore to defend themselves.
Yeah, it's actually quite bizarre that Dempsey, of all people, is viewed with suspicion of being a "racist". The guy was pretty much famed in his post-boxing life for being a genuinely warm and welcoming individual for all people, regardless of background, creed or colour. Now, I don't know if his warm-heartedness and hospitality has been embellished or exaggerated, but I've never heard of anything to the contrary. As you say, there's absolutely no evidence, even anecdotal, that suggest Dempsey had a problem with black people.
Yep. I've long grown out of expecting my favourite celebrities, actors or sports people to be anything more than what they are in their professional capacity. It's a bonus if they actually turn out to be good people outside of their work, but it's impact on me is minimal at best anyway.
:good RC, you nailed it ! This HAD to be SAID.I am old and wise enough to see what you wrote above is true.To extoll the virtues of one group over another group, to make oneself feel,somewhat "noble", expunge guilt feelings, of the past, that you or your family had no part of,has one name now it is called pandering, and I,tolerant of every group,want no part of that.Every conceived act today by you or I can be tarred ,by the word "racist".It creates a society of "victimization",that doesn't bode well of our society, and puts innocent people on the defensive...Wrong, wrong.. Thanks RC, for your truism...:good:good:good
Thanks BB...I hate the hypocrisy that goes on all the time nowadays....Bernard Hopkins says what he does about "white boys"..and nobody bats an eyelash...Mayweather says one stupid, racist thing after another and it's never mentioned by the idiots in the press..or by the idiot fans of Mayweather. This PC **** is the cancer of our society.
How could dempsey be a hired ******...any woman would have been happy to get drilled by that brutally handsome *******.
I am going to change all my resumes to say that I am looking for a job breaking in whores... Ok I'm done with my lounge like comments.
90%of the press are the college students of the radical professors of the 1960s.They feel more empathy for the mugger, than the victim. They disregard what outrageous comments by some black athletes said today,and try to tar a Jack Dempsey as "racist",for what he MAY have done NINETY years ago.Damnit the guy is dead these many years, and why regurgitate these innuendos again and again..Every race has it's good guys and it's bad characters, I have found out, lo these many years...
I don't believe the "hired ******" thing either. Who in their right mind gives up a legitimate raping career to become a struggling prizefighter ? :think
Yes, they were reported, but no big deal was ever made of them...all these excuses his fans came up with for him..that's why I say **** this crap of slandering guys who have been dead for years as "racist".
I don't think a big deal should be made of them. It made sports page headlines, pre-fight hype, nothing else. "Boxer Says Something Stupid" is not front-page worthy. I don't think Jack Dempsey is slandered as a racist generally. Maybe one boxing writer I've read said he was, the rest of it is just nonsense that goes on in the small world of ESB.
...Who put the bee in your bonnet? In an earlier post I stated that Dempsey "may have been a hired ****** during his teenage years." It was not a conclusion because I don't know. You said that this allegation has been proved false. I said "I hope so" and then asked for a source because I would like to use it the next time someone brings it up. I asked you for facts, and you give me hysterics. Slow your roll.
The onus is surely on you to provide facts,not me.:huh Why would you repeat something like that without a shred of evidence?:huh Why would anyone have to prove themselves innocent , when there is no proof to the contrary?:huh That is a bee in my bonnet?:huh No hysterics,just puzzlement. Lets start again ,shall we?
