Was Marvin Hagler a bleeder?

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  1. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler was such a complete fighter. good power, good offense and defense, an iron chin, unbelievable work ethic, but I heard that he did cut easily and that this was a weakness of his. Obviously Hearns cut him badly, but I can't remember if Mugabi, Leonard, or Antoufermo did. Apart from these fights I saw him carve up Minter's face. Would you say that he cut easily, and if he did what fights was he cut in? Thoughts.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Not really.
    I think any fighter who gets in the ring 70 times professionally, (with a large number of them being legitimate opponents and not bums/set-ups) is going to bleed a bit ... if there's some fighting going on.

    A "bleeder" is someone who picks up bad cuts easily and gushes blood, on a regular basis. They lose fights because of it.

    Usually it's pale-skinned fighters with angular bone structure who are "bleeders", or sometimes perhaps unlucky ones who picked up a bad cut that keeps re-opening because they fight so often.

    Alan Minter was a bit of a "bleeder" but his managers took him to a doctor who said he was normal but just needed to stop getting hit so much. :lol: Minter went on to win a world title.
    ... but then we know how much he bled when he lost it !
     
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    Hagler wasn't a bleeder...as Unforgiven says if you fight that level of comp for so long you are going to bleed sometimes...iirc, the scar tissue over his right (?) eye was caused by a clash of heads with Bad Bennie.

    As Unforgiven says Alan Minter was a bleeder, Kevin Finnegan, Henry Cooper (what is it with us Brits???) too, although, ironically enough in view of this thread, a lot of fighters seemed to become bleeders when they fought Marvin - Sibson for example was not a bleeder prior to fighting Hagler.

    Minter actually went to a hypnotist to sort out his bleeder issues. The school of thought was that it was more of a mental thing with Alan - in his early days he would get caught with a shot, lose his temper and go in all guns blazing and get caught with silly shots and careless heads.

    As his career progressed he tended to remain cooler under fire, until, imo, he fought Hagler and he seemed to revert to his early career gung ho approach...with devastating results.
     
  4. Estes

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    It was quite a raking punch by Hearns that opened him up. Would have cut most people.
     
  5. mcvey

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    No he wasn't.
    Antuofermo was a terrible bleeder who even had the prominent bones above his eyes shaved down to reduce the likelihood of cuts.
     
  6. Phil_Ivey_76

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    Billie Schwer was the biggest bleeder I've seen. However he was a great boxer. But that was his weakness.

    Hagler was no bleeder!
     
  7. Rikk

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    You may be thinking of Chuck Wepner, Boxed Ears.
     
  8. ribtickler68

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    I think he is taking the ****. Very surreal humour, has Boxed Ears!:lol:
     
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    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have a similar sense of humour, so I got it!:lol:
     
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  10. Rikk

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    Ah, damnit, ya got me!
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Minter, Hamsho and Antofermo were though at least when he fought them
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wtf are you talking about:nut
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    by the way, Hearns opened Duran's eye up in round one if you recall
     
  14. JudgeDredd

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    He wasn't a bleeder, but in the build up to the Leonard fight a suprising number of writers would have you believe he was, & Leonard had a slim chance of stopping him on cuts.
     
  15. mcvey

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    B. E. Has a special license to post whatever he wants, just as long as it has nothing to do with the thread.