Was Shane gassed because he wasn't on EPO??

No, that sentiment is not popular in ESB today.

If you persists, someone will say you don't know boxing.

The only acceptable explanation is Mayweather was countering him very well that mosley was gunshy because he is being countered starting at round 3. Sorry but Gassing out is not an option.

 

I hope not i think its more likely he just old.

 

I was surprised at Mosley after round 2, in fact I was surprised he didn't lay it all on the line at the tale end of round 2 when Mayweather started to regain control.

 

I believe a large amounts of diuretics are banned by numerous antidoping bodies and organisations, and there have been recents suspensions in both the NFL and boxing after people was found to be using diuretics. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr recently failed a test for diuretics after his fight on the Pacquiao - Cotto undercard.(http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4716150)

They can be used for a number of reasons, such as helping to dehydrate in order to make weight. However, they are also used as a masking agent for steroids. I believe the NFL has prohibited the use of diuretics for this very reason.

My knowledge in the area is very limited however.

As for the issue of Mosley and EPO - I know that the substance is used to increase red blood cell production and improve endurance, but I do not know the extent to which it can do that.

I have to be honest, this was one of the first questions that popped into my head when watching the fight. The difference between Mosley in the Margo and Floyd fights was staggering. You're talking about a fighter going from throwing punishing shots continuously for 9 rounds in one fight to be completely spent after two rounds of another. Is EPO capable of improving performance that much? That is one hell of a difference.

Also there are a number of other factors involved here, such as Mosleys age (fighters have been known to age over night), his inactivity before the fight, making weight (he claimed to be struggling) and of course - his opposition. These make it far more difficult to judge than if we was talking about a young, prime fighter showing this drop in performance in two fights 5 months apart.

I guess there is no real way of knowing, made harder by the factors mentiones above. However, you can be sure that if Pacquiao showed that kind of drop in his performance from say the Clottey fight to a potential Mayweather fight, there would be uproar.

One other point, I see a lot of people claiming that it was Mayweather that caused Shane to gas, making him miss, frustrating him etc. But you have to remember Mosley was gassed after the 2nd, a round in which he had Mayweather wobbled. To my eyes he blew his load in round two, he never recovered from the energy he expelled in this round and came out the weaker fighter in round three, which is pretty bizarre.

I think you raise a very good point worthy of discussion.

 

To me this is ridiculously stupid, unless evidence comes up otherwise The reason why Shane Mosley got tired in this fight were as follows.

1. 16 Month Layoff
2. 38 Years Old
3. Floyd Mayweather right hands to the head.
4. Mayweather is just a better fresher fighter at this point in each of their careers.

Do people really believe Mosley was using Steroids and EPO after the second De La Hoya fight? After all the the attention from 2007 on, do people really think Shane was going out finding an EPO supplier? I mean if you think about it, it is possible, but extremely far fetched.

The thing that people need to realize. Is there is no connection, absolutely none right now, of Mosley using steroids before 2003 and after 2003. Now evidence may come up in the future, but until then you can't just lay a blanket statement and say Mosley was juicing his whole career. I find it hard to believe Mosley was juicing while making the lightweight limit in the 90's. For instance if people did their homework on this story. The difference between Mosley, and other high profile users. Barry Bonds, Marion Jones, Roger Clemens, Jose Canseco, is the length and evidence of usage. Mosley has a one time association that began from June 2003 to Sept 2003 from a one time meeting with Conte. The others have years of association, evidence and usage. Now if a story comes out saying Mosley was juicing in his prime years, the dynamic of the story changes, and Mosley will deserve further questions.

The reason why Mosley was able to handle Margarito and not Mayweather was a matter of styles and dealing with a better fighter after a long layoff. Mosley in essence did not have a chance against a skilled fighter like Mayweather. People who picked him to win was more wishful thinking then in anything else.

Ask youself a question, how many 38 year fighters can compete at the top level after years of fighting at the top level? Mosley has had over 300+ fights, amateur and pro. Not many, Mosley is just getting old, and can't compete with a Mayweather. EPO has nothing to do with it. People need to get off Mosley's back. The guy has fought everybody. Yeah he cheated in 2003, whether he knew it or not. But it is long gone. Give Mosley a break.

 

yeah, I saw the last episode and I found it strange he was dehydrated 4 days or so before the fight - meaning he probably didn't use diuretics because cutting weight with diuretics takes just ONE DAY of dehydration! there was something very wrong. and dehydration kills!

 

Shane was gassed because he was missing punches and getting countered.

Combination of missed punches + getting punched = fatigue.

I have a feeling a lot of people in here have not even thrown a punch before. It takes more energy to miss, than it does when you connect. Just an FYI.

 

atsch What a dumbass, the same thing Happened With Old Man Bernard Hopkins, he was old and tired against Calslappy but when he fought a slow 1 dimensional Pavlik he looked great. Shane has been fighting for nearly 30 yrs, last fight pushing 40 he finally met someone faster than him, he had the Jitters because Floyd was TOO FAST for him and just outclassed him with his speed and skill. Old fighters can't handle speed and being 38 and a half is not only old its ancient for a WW, especially when they are up against one of the GOAT.