Was The Headbutt Intentional?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    the thing is that if Torres is not leaning in with that counter right, the headbutt doesn't happen.

    They are both equally responsible for it.
     
  2. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    Don't come in here with your sensible logic Pharoah! GTFO!

    Fear the wrath of San Rafael. :fire
     
  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Thanks for posting that, Pharaoh. Holt clearly comes in with his led lowered. He's stepping in to Torres. It's a textbook Bernard Hopkins headbutt. 100%.
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Your opinion means ****. Especially considering you are fool enough to declare intent on the part of another individual. You have no way of knowing that. NONE.
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    You are watching Torres. Watch Holt.

    Holt puts his head into Torres. What was Ricardo supposed to do, fall down backwards? He was trying to throw a punch and Holt plowed his head into him. Torres was not moving forward excessively in his motion, he only moved enough to try and get off a punch. On top of that Torres had been moving backward trying to get enough space to get off a punch - and Holt STILL plowed into him. Look at it again. I totally disagree.

    Go back to Torres again - look at the position of Torres' body when he gets hit. Holt ran him over with his head. Torres is almost straight up and down when the impact occured. His body is not leaning forward at all. AT ALL. He moved forward in rotation to throw a punch and halfway into the motion Holt's head is already colliding with his chin. Torres got rammed. Plain and simple.
     
  6. LightningJoe

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    :roll:

    85 people disagree.

    But they are just ******s, right?
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    You read that, saw the video, and you're still trying to argue?? PATHETIC.

    Alot of those people voted at the top of the thread without the benefit of the video. Why are you trying to bull****? Why are you trying to argue? That's all you got? LOL, you were badly owned and I can see you are bothered about it. Next time think before you open your trap, and do some investigating.
     
  8. Ziggy Montana

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    What a ****ing clown... :patsch
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    You, Ziggy, are the ****ing clown. *****. Prepare to get owned again. Fool.
     
  10. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Yeah yeah whatever... :hi:
     
  11. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Plain and simple, it takes enormous talent not to understand what happened there.
     
  12. BADINTENTIONS2

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    first time i've seen ziggy's footage.

    i never saw an intentional butt live and i still don't see it from this angle.

    not at all.
     
  13. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    The right hook was intentional though... :lol:
     
  14. LightningJoe

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    :rofl
     
  15. brownshell

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    Holt was attacking Torres after Torres backed up from the body shot. He moved in fast and low in case Torres threw something back and caught him in the heat of the moment.