WBC orders Fury vs Whyte

They did the same thing to Stiverne

 

This thread shows the level of some posters and their absolutely lack of boxing knowledge at all.
Let me bust some myths on here:
McGrain, stop putting words into AJ and Hearn mouth and trying to twist what they say/do.
There was never a possibility of AJ stepping aside.
I mean just because someone decide to wet dream about AJ stepping aside, it's their problem. That was never going to happen, and was obvious from the get go.
Fury was also using Usyk name, cause he knew he is obligated. All talk, as usual from Fury.

Team AJ probably wanted to distract Usyk team a bit and put them doubt who he will fight next. AJ focus has always been to be Undisputed, and no way in hell he was going to allow someone else to become such before him, not if he can do something about it.


And same people who are smashing AJ on here was saying the same b.c. before the rematch with Ruiz. " Oh he should take a warm up, he doesn't have a chance, it wasn't just one lucky punch and all kind of nonsenses. "
AJ has all the chances in the world in the rematch. In this level, even small changes can turn out to swing the fight huge time.
This is a very hard fight for both of them, and the chances are probably 60-40 in favor of Usyk, but i would say before the first fight the chance was 70-30 in favor of Joshua, because of the venue, the judges, referee, Hearn full control of the fight, Usyk age(as he had decline a bit), and so on.

 

So why mention Whyte's long arms?

You know... the ones that are shorter than Fury's and Wilder's and Klitschko's...

 

Now on to Fury - Whyte, cause i don't want to make a wall of text.

This is the best possible fight Fury could have make, so i don't see why would anyone been unhappy with it.

Both have their chances. I would say 70-30 in Fury favor obviously
But here i see some posters being stuck in the past.

Sorry, but Fury ain't the same fighter as he was like 5-6 years ago.
To me obviously he is on the slide already, due to his lifestyle and constantly going up and down on his weight and constantly being so much out of shape in the off.
Also it's quite obvious that he can't sustain a decent shape/weight/form and stick with it, and obviously improve from it, which should be anyone goal.
He is inconsistent and let's say in a 10 fight circle, probably in 5 of them he won't be in a decent shape. He just can't do a run of fights staying in shape.

But absolutely the same can be said for Whyte, kinda in a lesser extent, but Fury obviously is a lot more skilled than Whyte, and way bigger with bigger reach, and can get away with it more easily.


Whyte is a decent fighter, and the only question i have is his chin.
I would say that he had a solid chin before, but i think AJ cracked his chin, and he is on the weak side now.
That will be a very good test for Fury and to see if he actually added some power to his punches and if he can KO Whyte.

As far as Whyte he had his chances. As i said Fury has gone far away with his style from 2015, and i doubt he can go back watching his last performance. Abusing his body will obviously affect him big time, and i don't see him do to Whyte, what he do to Chisora for example.

Maybe trying Wilder approach for fight 2, but how will that pay off ? Whyte is a brawler type of fighter, and has his chances in close. He has very solid left hook with top tier power in there, which is proven against iron chinned guys like Chisora and Parker.

I'm looking into this fight big time, and think that if Whyte and his team manage to come with good strategy and more importantly his chin ain't total gone, he had a decent chances to deliver a big surprise.

Obviously Fury is the favorite, and i got it 70-30, 65-35 in favor of Fury, but a lot of things can happen in that fight.

 

This.

Not once did AJ say he was stepping aside.

 

5-6 years ago he was being trained by his uncle Peter, now he's being trained by Sugar Hill.

It's almost like he has a different fighting style isn't it lad?

 

How is it AJ? He just got his ass boxed off by cruiserweight & is scheduled to fight the same guy again, keep up.. Whyte has been on the WBC 'waiting list' for years.. I don't think he's anything special but sure .. give him his shot ..

 

Agree.

I've stated in several threads that Fury and Usyk to a lesser extent are being overrated by the majority.

Pre Wilder v Fury 3 I would have expected Fury to take Wilder out quicker. The reality is Fury was very poor and struggled to get Wilder out of there at all. Fury looked awful not just in general condition even just looking at his face he looked 5 year older. He was static and getting hit with punches he would have easily avoided in previous fights.

Fury's whole reputation is based on just fighting two men and even one of those was a low risk effort (Vlad) the other he should have beaten handily on the first go. I have never rated Wilder and don't think more of him post Fury. Wilder needs to fight other known quantities.

Joshua despite his mental frailty and lack of confidence has a better resume thatn Fury and Wilder combined. The thread starter throwing Jennings and Areola as compable wins is just feeble.

There was never going to be enough money to get Joshua to step aside because Fury and Usyk just don't generate the revenue to even play that game.

Usyk v AJ favours Usyk but if it's close enough Joshua gets the nod It's just they way it is. he just needs to win another 3 rounds over his first peformance.

 

Whyte is shorter than Wilder and Klitschko, thus he can go inside Fury's range more easily than Wilder and Klitschko. Add Whyte's long arms and his effective short-range knockout hook to this equation, he can easily KO Fury with his inside fight skills.

 

I'd rather see AJ vs Teo Lopez's father. Then we could all enjoy seeing Lopez Senior's head go into orbit.

 

Do you have anything factual to back up your opinion of Joshua not stepping aside due to Whyte being made mandatory for the WBC belt?

If your opinion is based on your interpretation of what Joshua has said, then it's just that, your interpretation. Looking for 'meaning' begind his words is proof of nothing. You could take his words at face value but that obviously doesn't suit your agenda.

Your posting drivel.

 

Can you even read?
Obviously i stated the same thing. But he is obviously on the slide.
Obviously the changing of the style was his go in the rematch with Wilder, but changing your style, doesn't mean you can't swap back and suddenly you lose your previous skill.
It's just that he was in bad shape(Wilder 3), and he is on the slide, cause of the factors i already mention.

 

David Haye dropped and stopped a far fresher version of Chisora, while Whyte went life and death with Chisora in their first encounter and was allowed to get away with a blatant headbutt before dropping Chisora in the rematch. Moreover, Whyte KO'd the old shell of Povetkin who had been ravaged by Covid, so much so that he was out of breath after his ring walk, and was almost falling over whenever he tried to throw a punch. To claim that as a legitimate KO for Whyte smacks of desperation in an attempt to laud Whyte as a ferocious one punch knockout artist.