What All Time Greats do you think Wlad Klitschko would beat?

The only difference between the guys I mentioned and Wlad our guys like Holyfield,Bowe, and Foreman can take punch, Wlad cant. Bowe would really have a field day with Wlad, everytime Wlad would clinch he would throw a sneaky uppercut on the inside and a few of them would put Wlad on ***** street. Wlad is far from great, he just looks good because hes dominating in one of the weakest divisions heavywieght boxings ever seen. I dont blame Wlad for this, but your not a great fighter until you beat a great fighter, Wlad has never done this. The best fighter he has beaten is Chris Bryd who is good fighter in his own right, but far from great.

 

Yeah, but you cannot be blamed for the state of the division. The HW at Tysons prime wasn´t better then nowadays. Klitschko is dominateing a weak diviosion and thats what he has to do. How he would prevail in other eras is a speculation.

BTW Joe Louis, Patterson or Frazier hadnt the best chin either, but dominated.

 

Well...

Frazier was only stopped by the guy with some of the best power in history--so good that he knocked out the linear champion twenty years later with it. Patterson, I agree with. Louis is a borderline case.

 

At lest people back then knew who the champ was, go to the bar tonite and ask 10 people who the champ is? I bet you more people say Lewis and Holyfield than they do Wlad and Lewis has been retired for the last 4 years, Holyfield hasnt held a piece of the belt even longer. People dont like to watch losers, and thats what the heavywieght division has become a loser. Even Ken Shamrock made the comment, the reason why UFC is doing so well is because the Heavywieght division isnt.

 

Educate you, I can not. Suggestion I have. You do a pretty good Yoda. :think Why don't you change your avatar from Kenobi to the troll like Yoda?

You probably look more like Yoda than the classy Alec Guinness anyway :yep

 

:yikes :yikes :yikes :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( .....ahem, you dumb:yep

 

Foreman, Bowe etc..never tested man like Lewis or Klitchkos neather. Foreman was "big" George, but novadays he wouldnt be so big.

 

His post has convinced me of a Wlad/Cooney similarity. He has altered my opinion. Pray he does not alter it any further.

 

I think Lewis is a good boxer that would probably be pretty good in any era, Wlad on the other hand lacks a ton mental strength and any ATG or great fighter would exploit that relatively easy. Alot of fighters dont mind taking a punch to give one, like Brewster said after there first fight " Wlad can dish it, but he cant take it". Which is 100% true, if you can hang in there long enough to throw that one big punch you will more and likely beat Wlad. I mean thats be serious do you really see Foreman or Bowe being pushed around by a china chin like Wlad, its just unfortunate theres no one good enough now to expose Wlad for what he really is.

 

box03 among other ailments, you are suffering from the front runner mentality. MLB was overwhelmingly the team sport many decades ago. Not true in the US now. If you asked 10 people in a bar (unless very up scale) to write a correct paragraph in English or do a simple algebra problem, maybe less could do these exercizes today than decades ago. So? That's just a sad commentary on declining standards in US public education. Also entertainment options are much greater than "when everybody (in the US) knew who the HW champ was". We're on one such medium right now !

I watch very little UFC. The problem in boxing is people like you. I think you're a good candidate to switch over to UFC - or at least stop following the HW's in boxing. Btw, a younger cousin of mine follows the UFC type fights much more than boxing. It has nothing to do with the state of HW boxing. :roll:

 

Remember,those older guy's never face cuban or soviet union fighters in pro ring!

You dont have to take it if you are enought good avoid it..Ali was extremely good,but lacks power and thats why he have to take it sometimes. Wlad has learn a good lesson to how avoid been hit..Foreman and Bowe never take really hard punches to amateur gods like Lewis or Klitchkos..Bowe avoid Lewis and so on...

 

But they did thrash them in the amateur ring, and there appears to be a direct correlation between amateur and professional success.

Ali was seldom hit in his prime, and showed he could take it. Whereas Wlad, despite his punching power, has sometimes had to take it as well (his evasion rate is lower than Ali's during the latter's peak years) and has been less successful.

 

Actually your wrong, just 4 years ago people knew the champ was and his name was Lennox Lewis and was not american heavywieght. Me leaving boxing for UFC would be like me leaving Jessica Beal for Courtney Love, it aint going to happen. The UfC wasnt even 25% of what it was in the 90s as it is today, who wants to see Ken Shamrock when you could see a Mike Tyson or an Evander Holyfield. If you watched HBO or showtime in the last 5 years, you will see Im not the only that feels that way.

 

Lewis was/is.

 

Yes, maybe i'm idiot...