What are your acceptable terms for a catchweight

I'd rather not ever see them and would prefer boxers stick to the extant divisions (or, better yet, the original eight..) but if they absolutely must be tolerated then yeah the guidelines in the OP work.

NEVER in a championship bout. Ever.

There's just something so ****ing sleazy about defending (or challenging for, if you have that much starpower/leverage) a world title in a given division and making the opponent come in under a different cap.

Respect for anyone who does it takes a massive hit.

 

Why would the #1 Ring rated titlist at 154 need an advantage over a guy not rated top 20, coming off an epic beatdown? How can he feel redeemed if he had to impose weight stips on a one eyed bum, while defending his own belt?

 

No championship bouts.

 

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Looking back on it Oscar vs emmanuel fits all the criteria that makes a catchweight bout appropriate.

Both guys separated by at least 2 weight divisions. Check

Two elites and high demand for the fight. Check

No belt on the line. Check

Now emmanuel gets **** for the fight since Oscar was drained to death, but it was all Oscar's doing. He chose to take what he believed would have been the easy route and got ****ed over.

If emmanuel didn't have the dumbest fanbase in the sport, and Oscar been healthy that night, more people would see that this was a respectable CW

 

It isn't about Emanuel getting ****, it's about him deservedly not getting credit. (or rather, not deserving the credit his dumb ass fans blindly do give him, like he beat anything close to the real Oscar De la Hoya)

It isn't his fault Oscar drained himself to a skeletal husk, but neither should he be credited heavily for excelling against that skeletal husk.

Roach himself doesn't think highly of that victory and probably doesn't consider it much of an accomplishment, as he barely even needed to apply any of his "insider knowledge" on DLH. Oscar did all the work for them to make himself easily beatable.

 

Why so angry? It's a thread on catchweights, here's an example of the lowest form of a catchweight that somehow hasn't got much attention on this board.

 

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what's your justification in sergio asking pwill for a catchweight at 156 for the 160 title?

 

First of all, it was 158.

Second, Martinez had won the title at the 160lb limit. It was Williams who was coming up directly off a LMW bout where he was in fact a couple of pounds shy of the LMW limit. Plus, the catchweight was above what Williams had happened to weigh for their previous MW encounter.

So while yes, on principle, asking for catchweights is bad, in this instance it in no way inconvenienced the one being asked to honor one.

 

I'm perfectly fine if, say, Dawson-Ward was at a catchweight. Two young guys still in their prime and at the top of their division...makes for a great fight. BUT you can only use the catchweight card once. Don't make a career out of it because then it suggest to me you're focused on circus acts rather than giving the fans a fair mega fight they want to see.

 

How does that make it better? Not only did Sergio put his belt up at a cw, it was the lineal belt. That must be worse than some wbo belt that was vacant for Cotto vs Jennings, as far as cheating history goes.

Also, PWill had already fought Sergio once at 160, in fact it was Serg's first MW fight, it's why he dropped his interim 154 belt