What constitutes a "bum"?

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  1. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A definition of a bum would be all the WUM/Troll forum members that use the word " bum " more than the word " the ". Calling every other boxer a bum is a show of such disrespect for participants of a sport where the worst case scenario is someone ending up dead.....
     
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  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was Michael Spinks a bum?
     
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  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    M Spinks.
    Malik Scott
    Jean Marc Mormeck
    David Haye
    Audley Harrison
    Daniel Geale
    Darren Barker
    Edwin Rodriguez
    Bernard Hopkins
     
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  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    All solid B level or above fighters who simply resigned to lose rather than get put to sleep or sustain career altering beatings.
     
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  5. devon2

    devon2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Using this definition is Tyson a "bum" because he didn't fight Lewis to win?
     
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  6. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, Tyson is retired.
     
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  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Well I wouldn't label them career bums. To dive a little deeper into "someone who's not here to win", I'd say maybe someone who signs to fight knowing they will lose and don't bother to put much effort into making a difference. They're just collecting a check and they know this beforehand.
     
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  8. devon2

    devon2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But I mean after watching the Lewis fight would you call him a "Bum"? he clearly stated he wasn't fighting against Lewis to win but was fighting for the money.
     
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  9. devon2

    devon2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So.... basically another word for journeymen?
     
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  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    See that's an interesting perspective. I think someone can be a champion for 15 years, then on the 16th year they become a bum because they no longer have the desire to win, they go in fully expecting to lose. I'd use Zab Judah as an example, he was a good fighter but then look at him in the Paulie fight. He fought like a bum and didn't even try to win.
     
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  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I think a journeyman is someone who's just not good enough to compete at a high level. They have the desire to win but not the skill. I looked at wikipedia and it describes it pretty well IMO.

     
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  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Another interesting definition.

     
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  13. devon2

    devon2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had just looked it up too haha:D.
    But in terms of calling a fighter a bum,If a fighter doesn't try and expects to lose against a A level opponent but still beats solid B level opposition, I can't see them being a bum.
     
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  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    :think

    Then either they're a bum on the night or a journeyman :lol:
     
    alexthegreatmc, Aug 7, 2015
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Its a term widely used on boxing forums by keyboard warriors on boxing forums who have never been inside a boxing gym let alone a boxing ring
    Everyone that has the courage to step inside a boxing ring and put their life on the line deserves respect
     
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