What could Cotto have done diffrently to have won the fight?

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  1. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good because the amount of bufoons and aggravating nimwits here is really annoying, its why a great poster like ACB left the forum and greats like Sal Sanchez and Manassa only post in the Classics.

    Its good to at least have posters who are objective and have a firm grasp on reality regardless of who they pull for in a fight. Look foward to exchanging ideas wether they differ or are similar regardless for the upcoming fights. Take care.
     
  2. mexican legend

    mexican legend MVP! Full Member

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    Body shots didnt help either.
     
  3. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    is it physcological or is Cotto physically unable to take much punishment structurally because of his build. He seems to be stout but not in the same way a Chavez was. Your thoughts on this and does he even have a chance in a rematch with a new trainer, and tactics and stamina work, cause it doesnt mean a thing if mentally he cant grit it out and overcome this flaw.
     
  4. knockout

    knockout Make my day Full Member

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    hit more to the liver.
     
  5. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    actually clinching, he didn't clinch that much. watch the fight again just to prove my point he clinched twice during the entire fight and it was effective..

    plus he and his team should have adjust on the mid rounds, they were doing good landing clean shots but what was overlook was margo's chin, he and his team probably thought margo would wear down from all those punches in the late rounds.

    but they thought wrong..they should have re adjust the game plan and being more defensive wise as by the mid rounds they should have known there is no way cotto would hurt margo, his punches had no affect at all. And perhaps if they did that, cotto would have been less aggressive and more defensive minded he would have survived and possibly win a close decision.

    the key round was the 7th btw
     
  6. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think if he would have tied up more when on the ropes he would have had a way better shot at winning that fight,but that's not what Cotto's used to doing when he's not hurt.
     
  7. dhenzrae

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    throw more combinations and be aggresive like he did in the early rounds. stay off the ropes, and be slick to avoid margos body attack.
     
  8. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, clinching. I give Cotto a lot of props for not being like most fighters, and clinching every 20 seconds (floyd mayweather vs Ricky hatton anyone?)....but there is a time to clinch. Such as when your HURT!
    He should have thrown *SOME* body shots. I understand if he went to Marg's body he'd have left his face wide open, but once your getting pummeled, and most of your game is body punching you gotta take a chance! You might connect to his liver, solar plexus, etc, and stop his ass.

    Honestly, looking back I know Cotto doesn't have the best chin, but I'm just wondering what he could have done if he fought Marg standing in the center of the ring. Since Cotto is much shorter to just stay inside, and brawl with him, throwing a lot of body shots. Marg of course has longer arms, and wouldn't get near the extension, or power.
    I don't think standing there trading he'd have been hurt anymore than he was, or nearly as tired. He was so tired from running 11 rds, and when he did throw his combos it seemed like everything he had! Plus the body shots Marg was raining down wasn't helping. To just stand there and fight face to face he wouldn't use up half the energy.
    It still might be the same result, BUT I'm just wondering how much can marg take? We saw you could blast him in the face, and he just fed off it, coming on stronger. If you stand your ground, and blast his face/ body while staying on the inside...Would he be the same fighter?
     
  9. imp4pdabest

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    He could have held more, he could have trained for better stamina, he could have used the ring more
     
  10. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree if he satyed inside where his shorter arms give him better leverage and Margo longers ones cant get extension he might have fared better and saved some energy he culd have dug shots in close to the body
     
  11. viperguy

    viperguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's ture but if you're Cotto and you just smack Margarito in the face with some bombs and he's not feeling it than your self-esteem just went down the drain. You will just be fighting to stay alive.
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    That's an excellent point that you make - It's also highly likely Cotto knows his body's limits and does what he can to avoid too much damage because he doesn't want to leave himself vulnerable. Perhaps it's not just a psychological issue. I don't think anyone can be totally sure. Well stated.
     
  13. zerocool1523

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    cotto should have stayed off the ropes. the outcome would have been UD for him.
     
  14. reed_man02

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    Nothing, Margo would not be denied. He won so impressively that ricans thought he had to be on steroids.
     
  15. carras

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    stay off the ropes, clinch