What does Hatton have to do to beat PBF?

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  1. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Serious answer. Floyd has never fought a pound for pound quality guy like Hatton (no, Oscar does not count), and has looked at his most vulnerable in the face of determined pressure. Although he has a reputation for adapting in the Ring, the only two fighters considered to be even slightly competitive in the last 5 years (Oscar and Judah) did indeed pose him considerable problems, even though arguably neither of them were genuine top 5 fighters in their division at the time.

    In terms of styles, they both have things going for them. The slick boxer versus pressure fighter is the classic match ( Brawl In Montreal with the pressure fighter Duran beating the slick boxer Ray Leonard), and they both do what they do well. Floyd doesn't have a hope in hell of frustrating, intimidating or confusing Hatton. Ricky is too focused for that, and besides, he has plenty of skills himself, when he uses them. He's not just a one dimensional fighter.

    Floyd can stop him getting set though. They both use angles well, but if Floyd can be the one who is one step ahead and make Ricky react to him, then I have seen Hatton put out of position before. His feet can get behind him and his leverage is reduced.

    On the other hand, if Hatton can cut the ring off, he'll take shots coming in happily in order to get close to Floyd and nail him with far greater leverage than Oscar did. He had to come in through Tszyu's right hand to get in position, and showed a good command of distance, and a good understanding of good positioning.

    Floyd is elusive, of course, but he's not a great improvisor. He often takes a few rounds to look good while he tries to figure out his foe. If Hatton can press hard enough and be even moderately effective, it might be hard for Floyd to get a rhythm. I believe Ricky has a good game plan cause Floyd has fought the exact same way in his last two fights and is not likely to change from that pattern...
     
  2. duran83

    duran83 Member Full Member

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    Pretty unbeatable?? His last fight he won a close split decision?? Yes looked unbeatable in that fight :roll:
     
  3. Hadrian

    Hadrian Member Full Member

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    the problem with the walcott-marciano parallel is that the rock had a devasting punch he could hope to end it with-RH does not-He has decent power...but a one puch jaw crusher he aint
     
  4. Hadrian

    Hadrian Member Full Member

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    dorfmeister raises an intersting and subtle point: rythm. I think Floyd is a guy who is a genius at getting inside another guys timing and rythm-so if ricky can break that up it might be a card to play-more reason for RH to wrestle and elbow and fight ugly-there is very little rythm that is established in that kind of fight.
     
  5. Drofrah

    Drofrah Active Member Full Member

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    He will need to do what he did to Tszyu and Castillo but with more lateral movement. He needs to be able to get by the shots PBF will throw to stop him getting close. If he can keep the pressure he did against Tszyu and try and throw cleverly he stands a good chance
     
  6. chesh

    chesh Active Member Full Member

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    Great post! I agree, Hatton is Castillo with a bit extra. By that I mean a little more speed, a little more relentlessness and a little more power. This spells Mayweather's worst nightmare.
     
  7. dimi_dinev

    dimi_dinev New Member Full Member

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    chesh, 'nightmare' sounds a little exxagerated, let's say 'trouble'.

    Regards ;)
     
  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Stick and Move, outbox him. This will catch Mayweather off guard. :yep
     
  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    shot in the rib, hot at the had, hot in the rib, shot at the head .....
     
  10. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Don't make Floyd run.
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He shold give up the left hook to the head. That's his wildest punch and it will get him countered. He also has to limit the jab i'm afraid.

    Bodypunching is at a premium, with the occasional right hand over the top. This should be his game-plan punch wise for 8 or 9 rounds in my opinion, and they can employ the hook and go head-hunting late depending on the score-cards and PBF's condition.

    Pressure, but it needs to be educated early. Marching is fine but for nine rounds he needs to be making his man miss aswell.

    From around 9 on, make it war. Keep on the ref's right side up until then. Be aware of counter-puncing up until then. If Hatton wants it he needs to go all out but that shouldn't be from round 1.

    He needs to hold 5% in reserve.
     
  12. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I know what he needs to be doing RIGHT NOW!!! Training his friggin AZZ OFF and getting the weight off right:yep It will take great effort, a conditioned volume attack, and tenacity to get the job done.

    Floyd says he's coming to KO:D Bet that plan switches to back up option, when he hits reality. :hey

    No matter what, this is Hatton's chance!! He's gotta give "The Old "110%", be sharp, and ready. Gotta be ready for inside and outside vs Floyd. If Ricky can apply effective pressure? Its a fight! Hatton does posess a good inside game.


    If Hatton wins? He'll make the nest egg to retire on in the rematch. They'll make enough $$$$$$$$$ this time:good
     
  13. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    If I thought it could be done, I would advise this as well. In addition to being a huge style adjustment for Hatton, I don't think Floyd could be outboxed except by someone like maybe Mosley.
     
  14. EL BULLY

    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bring his A game.

    His style can give anyone trouble, think otherwise? you're deluded.

    Floyd is going to be hard to drag into the trenches so calculated and controlled pressure is the key.

    Tzsyu couldn't KO Hatton (even if you think KT was over the hill the last thing to go is the punch and he hit Hatton flush plenty and he never wobbled) so it is very likley to go the distance (unless Hatton taps that ribcage pretty hard).

    I think Floyd trumps Hatton on skill and speed.
    Hatton trumps Floyd on stamina and drive. (most people confuse this with heart) They both have no obvious deffinciencies in chin, heart and dedication. Two world class guys at the top of their game.

    I pick Hatton because he can take a lickin' and keep on tickin' and Floyds hands are ****ed. Hitting a relentless bone headed buzzsaw in the head for 12 rounds is the last thing you want when your hands are busted up.

    Hatton SD.
     
  15. Shane

    Shane Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Smother, the **** out of him make him fight every minute of every round he needs to have a very high workrate and flurry like a madman.