What Does Williams Have That Pavlik Hasn't Seen??

I think Paul is the tallest fighter KP has faced. However, Pav fought quite a few guys in the 6' 1" to 6' 2" range. Paul fought Andy Kolle:hey

 

Pavlik is going to KO Williams. No doubt.

 

Aye bro I disagree ... Williams poses a bigger threat to Pavlik to any other opponent he's faced.

Good assessment but Williams is faster than Taylor, he has better movement than Taylor and he's more active than Taylor. Pavlik has only went the 12 round distance twice and I thought he lost both fights. Its a bit easier to expose Pavlik down the stretch than it would be early on or in the mid point of the fight. I think the longer the fight goes on, Williams will adjust and stay consistant. The thing about Williams is that he's the same from round 1 to 12 ... he doesn't let his foot off the gas and he's built for the high volume type fighting.

Williams will have to prove to Pavlik that he deserves respect, but thats not even a big deal because I think that if Pavlik is being outboxed he can be discouraged. He was outboxed by Taylor in the second fight and didn't adjust ... he was also out classed by Hopkins who could've stopped him but elected to embarrass him instead.

Pavlik hasn't proved anything to me over the last 2 yrs that he's able to take on a good boxer like Williams ... who's a bit taller than Pavlik side by side and has a 5+ inch reach advantage on Pavlik ... that will play a big factor in the fight because ... the distance that Williams creates with Pavlik will allow him to move and punch ... and also punch on the move. There's going to be a time during the fight where Pavlik is going to have to take a step back ...

Pavlik footspeed is suspect ... Emmanuel Steward tore his style apart and said that he was exposed (you would've heard it if you watched the Hopkins fight)

Pavlik also doesn't have great hand speed either ... yeah he can throw one punch with some good speed on it ... but his combinations are slow and he has to be set to throw them ... he can't punch on the move and he can't block straight punches ... as was evident with his inability to defend the right hand ...

Williams straight left is going to play a major role in this fight and will prove to be dominate down the stretch ... I also like the way that Williams punches then side steps or pivots to the side ... sorta like what Pernell Whitaker used to do in his hay.

Williams by UD or late rounds T/KO

 

Pretty much everything you said here is out of wack.

Watch Taylor/Wright and Williams/Wright back to back, and then try to tell me Paul is faster than Jermain. He's not.

Three judges and 80% of ESB saw Pavlik/Taylor II as a clear win for KP. The claim that there is some argument in Taylor's favor is pure hater non-sense. You sound like Scar with that ****.

Williams won't adjust to anything down the stretch. He is a fairly predictable pressure fighter. He stands at mid-range and flurries. He wins fights by standing outside his opponent's range, and overwhelming them with work rate. He can't do that with Pavlik because unlike 90% of Paul's previous opponents, Pavlik can reach him.


Pavlik can't block straight punches? that is completely false, and when did PW start throwing "Straight punches?" All this time I thought it was the so called "angles" that would trouble Pav. You guys need to make up your minds.

Paul is not some master boxer. This will be a fairly straight foward fight. Two pressure fighters in a head on collision. Put your money on the bigger, stronger man.

 

There is one thing Pavlik hasn't seen:

A quality opponent AFTER his loss to Hopkins. When a fighter gets schooled by Hopkins they tend to be mentally affected by it. Where did the careers of Trinidad or Tarver go after Hopkins? The Pavlik who beat Taylor and Miranda would walk down Williams and KO him. This fight will show if this version of Pavlik is still there.

 

Good points:deal

 

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The fact that Pavlik beat JT twice and JT beat B-Hop twice, if anything, illustrates that Pavlik's loss to Hopkins was surprising. If Williams' loss to Quintana was insignificant, Pavlik's to Hopkins was equally.

 

Stop stalking me you piece of ****!:verysad

 

Plese Pavlik does not have a good defense. It's even worse than Williams defense. Williams was able to land on Wright a good portion of the time, so you know he'll be able to land on Pavlik.

 

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Williams is going to have to hurt Kelly in order to stop him from coming forward. Or, he is going to have to set up his punches with the jab and then get the hell out of dodge.

 

The pre-Hopkins Pavlik may have had a lot more trouble in this one. I believe that Hopkins made Pavlik aware of his limitations, thus making it clear to him that he needed to make improvements. Has Pavlik used the Hopkins loss constructively? If so, Williams is in for hell.

Disclaimer: Yes, I know that Hopkins and Williams are entirely different fighters with different styles. My point is that Hopkins showed Pavlik that he needed to make improvements. Pavlik felt indestructable prior to Hopkins. Now I hope he can move forward in a positive fashion.

 

Kelly's defense won't be a major factor in this one. Round 4 of Williams/Margarito is typical Williams. He threw 104 punches, and landed 20.

 

...And he was fighting a punching bag.

 

williams uses alot of angles that is what will win the fight for him against pavlik

 

I laughed out loud when I saw Margo stand flat footed, and slip Paul's jab 3 times in a row, but we have guys on here trying to claim Paul is faster than Jermainatsch