That is a nice way of saying getting inside and clinching for mercy. If he just crowded mayweather like Ndou did he would get Ndou'd in the ring. Hatton does not crowd he gets in and GRABS and pushes you off balance then throws a hook. Floyd can be pushed and still keep his balance b/c Floyd not playing the muscle match with Hatton and backing up when he wants to CLINCH will make Hatton vulnerable to his right hand.
I don't understand why should one feel entitled to end the argument, say how things really are and classify other people's opinions as dumb and that is just the beginning. Floyd has said that he hurt his hands many times and in that particular case, he doesn't even remember which round it was. I said it once and say it again, Floyd presents his left side to his opponents and that is not the way to fight cause he can only fire jabs and counter rights from that position - Gatti who was said to be a C class fighter comes at you with the whole arsenal and the way Floyd negated him was with a defensive stance, didn't move as much, but defensive all the same. I don't know what the guy has in the back of his mind cause I'm not Dr.Phil but he looks very tentative in most of his fights ( even against a nobody like Bruseles or a much smaller n washed up Mitchell in his first 147 pound outing). We all know Floyd is relyin on making the most of Hatton's offense, that's no big news, but that's not the main reason I feel he eventually will catch him - Hatton doesn't move his body cause all his strength comes from keeping his body n neck upright, his short arms close to his thick trunk and fire hooks from there, and Floyd can throw fast curved punches and catch the immobile target Hatton from sideways and underneath. Hatton will not surely try to offset Floyd's game with short straight punches cause he simply gat to get in there first and he can only do that if he uses faster feints and footwork as he throws hooks. I am not looking to solve Mayweather's defensive puzzle or look for Hatton to get inside his defensive envelope but I don't buy Mayweather's fanclub hiphop kinda hype that Hatton has no chance in there... Bullocks.
Thanks In any case I don't see you as a attention getter but I do see you like to dissect a fighter's fighter style , and so do I so when I see someone talking the same language I jump at the chance to compare notes. Floyd defense is almost Identical jame Tony no secret there , but because of floyd's conditioning, he has more option and his style is a little bit more polished Then Toneys, but one thing there style have in common they need there opponent coming forward to make it work. Draw back to this style is that it can be out worked if the practitioner is not busy enough or is stationary . example James tony vs Roy , Roy jumped got his shots off then out vs Tony, even though Rjj never hurt Tony he simply was the busier fighter , but tony in shape show just how effective this style is against aggressive puncher like Jirov. Floyd will move out of range about two steps which will allow him to better time and measure his opponent if he misses a step you will see him dip low come in close and smother his opponent punches then move out with ether a hook or straight right while pushing off. when ever floyd does employ the should roll , he doesn't use for defense but to hide what he doing with his right hand , which Floyd can hook , upper cut or throw double right hands to the head or body he has a very educated right hand so does Tony for that matter. So I think you agree with me that he does stay close to his opponent in order for his style to work , but your right he may not be strong enough to shoulder hatton off so look for floyd to use stiff jab to the face and body to make ricky think then sneek his own left hook to the body which is underrated , then you may see floyd start to out work ricky down the stretch. now If were ricky I might try to Rjj approach in the early rounds get in score then get out he fast enough to do it , then look to take the fight in the trenches in the later rounds, limiting Floyd the amount of round he has to time and figure out Ricky but IMO the longer Ricky stays to close to floyd, the more time floyd has time Ricks attacks and figure hatton out . but all in all I think this fight might resemble the fight his uncle fight had with Paz .
Clinching for mercy? You are getting nervous, I am sensing... Hatton is a very experienced aggressor who shows the kind of commitment that will always have a chance as long as he tries n doesn't get distracted with poses. One more time, go back to HBO Hatton's fights' comments and confirm from the same american commentators that call Mayweather "virtuoso" ( and that had Mayweather-Chavez even after 8 rounds) and check if the word "crowd" is not used for Hatton's offense. He does crowd, grab and pushes you cause he has the strength to do it - yes, he did grab Collazo's head and nailed him with the left in the opener but that's just part of the game - both you and me are not certain that Floyd can keep his balance cause Collazo is as big n strong as Floyd and Hatton doesn't get vulnerable to Mayweather's right counter if he gets first with his own volley. At the break, Floyd cannot punch him according to law.
Good arguement. I think Hatton has a chance to get a push knockdown like that early in the fight. But he will only get away with it once. But Hatton does not CROWD. He hooks underneath with his right arm every single time he gets close enough to do so. That is not crowding. Jesus Chavez crowded floyd he did not grab he got in with his defense and high guard and got in floyds chest and worked from there. Though the commentators are ****ing idiots and couldnt see that Floyd was doing the rope a dope. As soon as Chavez started to get tired after his barrage and started to drop his high guard just a little, Floyd teed off on him with power shots. Hattons guard is always low, but he is stronger and more physical then Chavez but will still wind up eating clean power shots while not landing clean effective shots. Floyd can avoid any of Hattons head punches with his eyes closed as Hatton throws his right hand the same way every time. Overhand right under left hook over and over and over. Floyds whole defensives style is to roll and avoid those shots which is why southpaws hit floyd more cleanly and often then any other fighter. Hatton is getting stopped in this fight by a barrage of right hands a la Ndou style.
Floyd is a reactive fighter, he doesn't like to lead. He's at his best when he lays traps, offering what appears to be a gap, then anticipating your action and countering. This content is protected This content is protected What he doesn't do much of is TAKE control. He doesn't, for example, feint much to draw an attack. When on the defense ( ropes or center of the ring), he rotates, blocks and waits on an opportunity to counter his opponent put out of position for the most part, rather than actively seeking to create one. This content is protected This content is protected He CAN do those things, but he's a well schooled fighter rather than a natural one, and is far more conventional than, say, Toney, who never has a plan, or Hopkins, who has a plan and can adapt quickly to make it work. Interestingly, the fight where I thought he improvised best was against Emmanuel Burton, which was probably the fight he got hit the most. Burton, however, FORCED him to fight, which Hatton may very well be able to do too. Floyd can stop him getting set though. Floyd can be the one who is one step ahead and make Ricky react to him, then I have seen Hatton put out of position before - his feet can get behind him and his leverage is reduced. Don't expect Floyd to trade right in his chest like against Hoya in the 12th or to press him against the ropes like against Goyo Vargas though... This content is protected This content is protected
Hatton relied on crowding, gettin close, pushin Tszyu literally and hook him underneath from there. He also kinda pushed Louie's head down and caught him with the same arm, I don't know if he gets only single chances in 36 minutes fights. This content is protected This content is protected At this late stage still, my mind is on a stand by whether Ricky is gonna happily take some to step inside straght-forward type or if is in to see who bombs hooks from the distance first. Obviously, I don't feel confident enough to say what's gonna happen but I know Floyd can drop him with a left hook if he doesn't stay busy and moving. This content is protected Nevertheless, Ricky is not a perfect example of a conventional, orthodox boxer but a short hooker in essence and who can come from leftfield or rightfield. That also presents a problem to Floyd as he likes to keep em occupied with long shots underneath ( jabs and rights to the body)... I'm sure a lot of people would look back in anger in case. This content is protected This content is protected
I agree with most of what you say except for the faint , when ever Floyd is up against some one bigger and stronger , Oscar and Castillio . He does elect to lead against south paws , Zab, corley and Mitch but does to get solid when leading against south paws. will also if has a speed advantage.
I was watching rounds 4-5-6 of the Baldomir fight on youtube and I was surprised to see that Floyd was coming forward more than I remembered. If I was injured and could potentially lose out on a fight with Oscar I would be pretty cautious too. It's not hard to see why anyone would be upset about it. During the NBA Eastern conference finals in I think 03'-04' the Nets were ahead by a good amount yet Jason Kidd would insist on running down the clock on every possession. By the final minutes the arena was already pretty much in the parking lot. I was more frustrated with Oscar resorting to those 7 punch barrages that practically only hit Floyd's belt if anything. At least Floyd admitted "I'm human; I can't win every round," after the fight. Given his style I think he did genuinely try pretty hard contrary to what I expected from De La Hoya. Most of the people that I was around watching that fight with would get legitimately upset because Floyd was slipping punches when they just wanted to see him get nailed. Lately though Floyd has been exceedingly reliant on an in-and-out attack with his straight right. Havnt seen him double up on hooks as much as before. This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected