What has Lennox Lewis gotta do to earn some respect round here?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say if Lennox was a bit more humble he might get more respect (than he already does). He comes across as a nice guy but in boxing terms he is not very likeable really, he hasn't really mellowed in his retirement and still likes his barbs towards Tyson and Holyfield. whereas they seem a lot more humble when discussing Lewis. Maybe he resents being overlooked by those guys and has to get his point across, but I think it does him no favours personally.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    That is so just like Lennox Lewis.
     
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    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have him top five. I chop and change with him and Holmes for the 3rd and 4th spots.

    Excellent boxer puncher, great ring iq, super strong and a behemoth of a man. The real deal was Lennox. Fought everyone in one of the strongest era's (who was willing to face him), stayed at or near the top for over a decade in said strong era.

    Shockingly under appreciated for most of his career on both sides of the pond. He gained respect and appreciation (on here too) in the years after retirement up until a few years ago. Where now he is maybe starting to be under appreciated again as the op is alluding to.

    I don't think Lewis is worried though. Happy with his lot.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Foreman knocked Norton who was a very good fighter, Holmes beat Norton in one of the greatest heavyweight title fights of all time! Tyson beat Tucker who many thought had the talent to be an all time great. Lewis wasn`t that good when he beat Bowe in the olympics as Bowe grew into a pro under Futch he improved vastly, winning olympic gold means fighting well for only 3 rounds plus AJ was much better than Lewis was when he won gold, everyone spotted right away that he could be heavyweight champ. Ali`s loses came during the 70s when he had slowed down plus he avenged those defeats.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Wasn't he top 5 in that really big poll rummy organised about 4 years ago?

    He gets plenty of respect around here.
     
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    Ali
    Louis

    LEWIS
    Foreman

    Marciano
    Holmes

    Frazier
    Tyson
    Liston

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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    That's a tight list.
     
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    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lennox was LOSING the fight. The fight had to be stopped on the cut to Vitali. Lennox promised a rematch but ducked out because Vitali was going to hammer him and he knew it.

    Lennox has the stain being liar, and the fact that he was going to lose.

    HAD he rematched Vitali, and won as he said he would, he would rank much higher on my ATG lists. But, that fact remains he went out with a win that was ONLY because of the cut, not because he was a winner.
     
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    top 5 no... he was a big heavyweight with a big right hand and decent jab, but his footwork was not so great. He had a lot of power and could have that advantage against most, but still smaller guys knocked him cold.. His size helped him a lot like it helped Klitchkos..
     
  11. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    "If only Frazier had come out for the 15th round"

    "If only Golota hadn't been knocked out in one round"

    "If only Foreman hadn't punched himself out"

    and....

    "If only my opponent hadn't bust me up so badly, it looked like my face had been dragged under a bus"

    In boxing there is only one winner and one loser, always has been, always will be... well... except occasionally when it is a draw... and sometimes a no contest... but apart from that, in boxing there is only one winner and one loser.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so...you'd rate him much higher based on one fight when he was retiring?

    would you rate ali MUCH MUCH higher if he'd beaten berbick? seriously??? MUCH HIGHER FOR ONE MEANINGLESS FIGHT?
    would you rate holmes much higher if he'd beaten spinks? SERIOUSLY??? ONE WIN AND YOU'D RATE HIM MUCH MUCH HIGHER?

    Wouldyou rater Rocky MArciano MUCH MUCH higher if he's beaten the awful Ingemar Johannson? REALLY?? MUCH MUCH HIGHER??

    NO you wouldnt. They'd be about the same in rankings. SO WHY THE DIFFERENCE with Lewis? TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, LEWIS DID BEAT VITALI WITH HALF THE FIGHT TO SPARE! HE DID IT, THE OTHERS DIDNT "beat their vitali equivalent"

    This is completely hypothetical of course because Lewis ripped vitalis face to peices with ease by letting him punch himself out and then obliterate his porous defence with ease, inside 6 rounds.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he did win and then retired, being the same age or older than everyone is retired from the title by.

    BUT not enough for you though,apparently YOU know more than these professional boxers, dont you?

    u think rocky ali holmes etc should all have gone on longer risking life and limb in middle age solely for your vanity, yes? u really think a man with Parkinsons shouldda just carried on boxing, yeh? THEN YOU ARE SICK MATE.

    that bits better mate, you got it now.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    never has so much self contradictory rubbish been written as it is by klub kliturd.
     
  15. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    They will always try to discredit Lennox Lewis, at every turn and every corner.

    If Mike Tyson had achieved what Lennox Lewis had, the debate wouldn't be whether he is a top 5 ATG, or a top 10 ATG, the debate would be "is he the GOAT?". Every single person on here, bar none, would have Tyson as either #1, #2, or at very, very worst #3.

    But for some reason with Lennox Lewis, all bets are off, it is a different rule book for him.

    I think they all know it deep down, but they continue to rail against him. Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.