What if AJ knocks out Usyk in the rematch and defeats Fury

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Will that make him the best of his era or will he have to defeat Joe Joyce and Wilder too. I think the roadmap for AJ is clear. It’s not going to be easy but I believe he can.
     
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    Easier said than done. We've seen that Usyk can actually hurt Joshua. If Joshua goes all out aggressive on Usyk there's a good chance that he gets knocked out himself.
     
  3. TheRevAshton

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    If AJ manages to do the above then yes, absolutely.

    He wouldn't have to do anything else to prove it either, his resume would be by far the best in the division with the addition of wins over Usyk and Fury.

    However, he won't beat Usyk in the rematch... and if they ever fight, Fury won't beat Usyk either!
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I still think he'd need to beat Usyk in a 3rd fight as well as Fury in a rematch too because we all know there will be a rematch clause. But if does that then yeah hard to dispute his supremacy.

    But the odds on this are long even when he was undefeated I said Fury wss likely to beat him, so it would take AJ going to another level we haven't seen yet.
     
  5. anthoto1

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    Useless thread.
     
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  6. Ted Stickles

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    AJ is and has proved to be overrated
     
  7. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    Hypothetically speaking (and very,very much so!), "If" AJ was to beat both Usyk and Fury then in that vein I think he could also beat Wilder as I'm not sure if Wilders got anything left now at elite or even top level.

    So to the actual point of your question. "If" he were to do this then I can't see how it could be argued that he's not the best of this era. It would mean he's beaten the very best and avenged his losses.

    No mean feat considering where he's currently at now in his career with the obvious hurdles he's already had, currently got, and yet to overcome.

    A Rocky film in the making such is the task
     
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  8. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    I don’t care for what if.Andy Ruiz is not a puncher and he knocked Joshua down 4 times and stopped him.Joshua was a 1/33 favourite to beat Ruiz.personally I was not surprised at all when usyk dominated AJ.
     
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  9. vituman

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    I stopped reading when Joe Joyce was mentioned.
     
  10. First Round KO

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    Same here, can't believe he gets talked about in the same breath.
     
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  11. Max Thunder

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    If he beats Usyk, Fury and Sugar Robert Helenius then I'd say he has cemented his status as the #1 of this era.
     
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    Time and hindsight would turn him into the Lennox Lewis of this era.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    He turned professional almost 5 years after Fury and Wilder. If he comes along in 2022 or 2023 and beats Usyk and Fury, yes, people could and will say "best of his era", but it's a bit like the Lennox Lewis case where people elevate Lewis above Holyfield and Tyson. The advantage is usually with the younger man who comes along a bit later.
    Beating Wilder now would mean little, unless Wilder beats someone good in the meantime.
     
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    I'm not sure what "Joe Joyce" has to do with it.
     
  15. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Couple of HUGE what ifs in that one pal.

    Here's a few more for you:

    What if AJ didn't QUIT on his US debut against an obese little grinning mexican fella
    What if AJ didn't go life and death with a shot to pieces retired old man in VLADD
    What if AJ didn't get schooled and nearly stopped by a feather fisted cruiserweight in BRUTHA USKY