What if Ali never returned to boxing after getting exiled?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Pugilist_Spec, Nov 30, 2017.



  1. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

    4,927
    741
    Aug 17, 2015
    What would his legacy be today?
     
  2. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,793
    14,924
    Jul 30, 2014
    Biggest "what if" in boxing history.
     
    richdanahuff likes this.
  3. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,972
    2,019
    Mar 26, 2005
    I saw an article a while back saying that if he never came back in Oct.1970 against Jerry Quarry in Atlanta...if his fight with Zora Folley at MSG on March 22, 1967 was his last...he wouldn't be remembered much at all...the 2 "fights" with Liston...boring 12 round TKO against Patterson in '65 who had a slipped disk in his back...Brian London
    ....Karl Mildenberger...Cleveland Williams...9 yrs older than Ali...with pieces of a 357 slug in his abdomen...that affected the nerves above his legs...so he couldn't really move around....Ali stopped him easily in 3 rounds...Henry Cooper on cuts in 1966....listless fight with George Chuvalo....etc. The article said his first title reign was nothing special. It was his fights with Frazier...Foreman...Norton...and others in the 70's that cemented his legacy!!!
     
  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    7,353
    11,916
    Oct 20, 2017
    He'd be at the higher end of the top 20 heavyweights but probably not top 10. People would find him as hard to rate as Marciano.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

    48,595
    12,608
    Jul 19, 2004
    The big winner(s) here legacy-wise, would be Foreman and (more indirectly) Holmes.
     
    GlaukosTheHammer likes this.
  6. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,867
    4,586
    Jun 7, 2016
    Frazier would be rated much much lower, without Ali his resumee would be Jimmy Ellis' resumee plus jimmy ellis.
    Nortons resumee also takes a big hit.
    Foreman reigns longer and is eventually beaten by Holmes, Foremans second career may have never happened.
    Holmes standing would indirectly improve.