What if Roy Jones move up to HW and stopped Lennox Lewis?

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  1. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Not by any stretch, it just means something that happened before there was a cruiserweight division can happen again.

    The idea that 190 pound fighters, ceteris paribus, have little or no chance against 250 pound fighters is largely a post hoc fallacy with with little or no direct evidence to support it.

    Some propositions become widely believed because the evidence in their favor is so strong you'd have to be an idiot or a lunatic to deny it. And some - in fact many - gain this status through absolutely nothing more than repetition.
    *Never* underestimate this.
     
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  2. Ronnie Raygun

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    Lewis by death the mintue he hits roy fights over.
     
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  3. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In reality Jones gets murked. In this hypothetical he is the GOAT Period.
     
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  4. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Nonsense. While it's far from clear what *exactly* makes for a good chin, there are only so many mechanisms that could conceivably contribute to it, and all would suggest that punch resistance does not scale with size as closely as punching power. (And I don't think the latter scales all that closely.)

    If Jones bulks up to 190 plus by the age of 30 or younger, I see no reason whatsoever he's not a live underdog against Lewis.
     
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  5. HerolGee

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    lewis kills him, man.

    roy has the frame of a middleweight, for crying out. Lewis was a genuine superheavy with full set of elite skills.
     
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  6. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    This is coming down to frames now? Interesting move, Mr. Lakoff.
     
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  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    well the difference between middleweight and superheavy sure wasnt enough to convince u
     
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  8. Mod-Mania

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    It would have shot him right up, but the reality is that Jones would be lucky to still be with us today had he fought Lewis.
     
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    Whew!! Am I glad!!
     
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  10. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jones was never a MW "frame" lol. He admits he was coming in at 180 or higher in those fights, as early as Hopkins.

    Jones was always a 180 to 190 pound fighter. The only thing that changed was how much he was willing to dehydrate for a weigh in.
     
    The Kentucky Cobra, Oct 12, 2017
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  11. steve1990

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    If Jones were to beat Lennox Lewis it would be considered one of the greatest upsets in boxing. If not the greatest upset in boxing.
     
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    This is nonsensical. Ruiz was hand-picked for a one time deal for pete's sake.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    I had to check this as I was sure he was in the middle 180's, no,you are right! On both counts!
     
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  14. Rock0052

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    It'd look like a fantastic, AGT win until the positive tests for PCP & horse steroids came back.
     
    Rock0052, Oct 12, 2017
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  15. mcvey

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    Well dordi chav,jell to moggi over the rye ,and cur a shoshoi with your kanniechor juk.
     
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