What if Steward never trained Wlad?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by VG_Addict, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    23,752
    Likes Received:
    3,947
    What if Wladimir Klitschko never got Emanuel Steward to train him?
     
  2. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Messages:
    7,658
    Likes Received:
    78
    Wlad needed a hands-on, compassionate, fatherly master to rebuild not just his career, but his confidence, which was nonexistent and destroyed following Brewster.

    Steward built Wlad back up as a man. Without him, it is safe to assume he doesn't survive Peter.
     
  3. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2012
    Messages:
    1,390
    Likes Received:
    23
    What if fishes had wings.
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    34,796
    Likes Received:
    66
    Vlad would have lost and retired by now
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2006
    Messages:
    71,997
    Likes Received:
    28,008
    I think that Wlad would ultimately have built up some kind of momentum, but it would not have led to the dominance that we have seen. Steward was crucial to his transformation, but part of it was Wlad. At some point Wlad sat down and said "I have to make this work".
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,198
    Likes Received:
    27,682
    Depends on who else was hired to take over his corner. Freddie Roach might have been able to do something with him, assuming he was available. But as Janitor said, part of it was Klitschko's determination to succeed. Few fighters have taken three bad beatings like the kind he took against Brewster,Sanders and Purity, then rebounded to have an all time great career.
     
  7. blagovech

    blagovech esbs #1 pedo Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2012
    Messages:
    1,472
    Likes Received:
    1
    wlads career would have been over
     
  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    42,723
    Likes Received:
    279
    Waldo always should have been where he is now, but he needed the confidence, inside fighting and defence to get where he is. Other trainers could have guided him there but he certainly needed guidance I think
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2005
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    3,779

    :good:good:good:good:good:happy:happy:happy
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    42,723
    Likes Received:
    279
    Vitali was removed from Wlad's Sam Peter camp because of his negativity according to Steward
     
  11. frankwornank

    frankwornank Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2007
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    83
    Steward was an excellent trainer but like most trainers, he trained hundreds of fighters that never amounted to much. The point is, it is the fighter that makes the difference. Wlad would be just as good with or without Steward. Example: Charlie Goldman trained Marciano and got all kinds of recognition for it. However, Charlie Goldman also trained hundreds that did not make it. Steward and Goldman's abilities were the same for all those hundreds of fighters. Vlad and Marciano and many other champions got to where they got because of thier ability, not the ability of their trainers. Trainers that a fortunate to come upon a great fighter, gain recognition for it and they wind up having quality fighters coming their way. Steward had Hearns and he wound up with some good fighters because of it. Angelo Dundee had Ali and he wound up training Sugar Ray Leonard etc.
     
  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Messages:
    58,747
    Likes Received:
    21,593
    This content is protected