What is a lineal champion

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  1. MonassaMauler9

    MonassaMauler9 New Member Full Member

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    Was for the vacant lineal welter world championship.

    Research the bout.
     
  2. MonassaMauler9

    MonassaMauler9 New Member Full Member

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    What's the issue with breaks in the UNIVERSAL lineage and not breaks in the rest of the world lineages?

    Theres breaks in all world linages OF
    universal
    WBC
    IBF
    RING
    WBO
    WBA
     
  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which publications create the concensus in 2023?
     
  4. MonassaMauler9

    MonassaMauler9 New Member Full Member

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    TBRB
    ESPN
    BAD LEFT HOOK
    BOXING NEWS

    prodomitly is dictated who the consensus no1 and no2 are today.

    However atleast 2 out of the 4 publications must have the same no1 and no2 to qualify for a vacant universally acclaimed no1 recognition
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Yes, there are and it's pretty much the point.
    What's so pure about that lineal title thing if it's not really lineal and has more loopholes to go through as a mere alphabet belt?
     
  6. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think most consider Wlad becoming the lineal champion Vs Povetkin. I have never heard anyone say it was the Chagaev fight.
     
  7. SimonLock

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    The ring recognised Wlad as their champion for beating Chagaev, as it was #1 vs. #3, and because #2 was his brother.

    TBRB didn’t exist at the time, but they disagreed with this and recognised Wlad after beating Povetkin in October 2013 as it was #1 vs #2. However, this was arguably a bit forced as in order to get Povetkin to #2 they had to take out Vitali and Haye for inactivity after only 1 year each. Their August 2013 list had Povetkin at #4.

    Boxrec list Wlad as lineal champion following the Chagaev fight.

    LinealBoxingChampion.com also picks the Chagaev fight.

    Cyber Boxing Zone also picks the Chagaev fight.
     
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  8. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is there a universally acclaimed no1 today?
     
  9. SimonLock

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    The 4 publications he selected have the following at Heavyweight:

    TBRB - 1) Usyk 2) Fury
    ESPN - 1) Fury 2) Usyk
    BAD LEFT HOOK - 1) Fury 2) Usyk
    BOXING NEWS - 1) Usyk 2) Fury

    I would add the following:

    BOXREC - 1) Fury 2) Usyk
    RING - 1) Usyk 2) Fury
    SPORTSRATINGS - 1) Fury 2) Usyk

    So no, there is no consensus #1, but everyone agrees who the top 2 are.
     
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  10. lahiredgun

    lahiredgun New Member Full Member

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