I need to watch it back, but live I scored the second fight for Fury by 2 points. I scored the first fight for Usyk. I respect Fury, he’s beaten the long time champion Klitschko, as well as the wbc champion and highly ranked Wilder 3 times, and the highly ranked Whyte, and Chisora 3 times who is a current top 10 heavyweight according to TBRB. He’s also performed better against Usyk than any other heavyweight, and shown himself to be an elite fighter.
All of those things. I think because of Joshua's decline people will view the whole period between Vlad losing and Usyk appearing as the Fury era, although there was a good chunk of that time where people didn't see it that way at all. Joshua really was the preeminent heavyweight going off the eye test and resume, or at least neck-and-neck in contention for that title.
The best thing for Fury to do now is fight Joshua to establish himself as the 2nd best of his generation. He has run the gamut of viable older opponents now and should stay well clear of a young prime fighter like Dubois. Maybe he could fight the older Zhang, but that seems like an unnecessary risk. Take the Joshua fight, it is the one fight he needs for legacy, then count his money in retirement.
I think he clusters with Bowe, Norton, Patterson, Vitali, Walcott...great or near great, but with a flawed career. POST SCRIPT...Joshua fits there too.
He's had a jolly good career. Was labelled a boring fighter after the Wlad win. He's given us some great entertaining fights since 2018 especially
I think he's top 25 Heavyweight of all time I'd class him as good but not great he could've had a better career but I feel like his 3 year hiatus and wasting time with pointless rematches and pointless fights ruined his full potential.
He should retire now because the signs are he's going to stack on the weight and start getting KO'd. He could really crash and burn from here. Fighters like AJ, Dubious, Zhang, Croatian, they can all KO him if Fury isn't sharp and fit. And those days might well be behind him now. He just showed up to the most decisive fight in his life at 280lbs, fatter than ever. Fury is actually a 'wasted talent'. With a better team and forced discipline he could have been significantly better. He got by on ability and toughness but was in fat camps half his career and also visibly fat in a number of big fights. For a fighter who depends on speed and endurance that is absurd, actually.
A mediocre boxer who lost to McDermott (rigged for him), beat a washed WLAD, got popped for steroids afterwards, went life and death with Otto Wallin, beat a horrible fighter in Deontay Wilder twice (a one-trick pony), got dropped by a first-time boxer (an MMA fighter), lost twice to a guy who's older than him, way smaller in height, weight and reach...
One of the best of this era, most entertaining and erratic. Fury should retire now, he’s made enough money and had a great career, he just lost a close fight to a super genius and there’s no shame in that.
I currently rank him as my #20 all time Heavyweight. I agree with most of your points but I still consider him a borderline great Heavyweight at #20 on my list.