What is so impossible about Cotto beating Margo?

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  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    The fact is that Cotto himself said it was virtually impossible for him to land the body punches he wanted on Margarito.

    In a rematch, there's things he could do diferently, but he will still have to fight on his back foot.

    And you mention all these fighters coming back to KO their opponents, well, Margarito is not an opponent you should consider knocking out, you might find yourself in a ton of troubles finding out his chin is granite.

    Cotto can potentially win this fight, lets not forget that he outboxed Margarito for all those rounds, only.. Margarito was competetive and came closer and closer each and every round!

    Cotto fades again in the later rounds and retires off of 2 losses :verysad
    Paul Williams vs. Margarito, is a whoole different ball game though:deal
     
  2. Gatekeeper78

    Gatekeeper78 Active Member Full Member

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    Nothings imposible in boxing. very few fighters can win a remach when they got knocked out or tko. If he can do it it would be an accomplishment. I don't think he can do it but only Cotto can prove me wrong.
     
  3. MrMagic

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    doesn't have the skills?

    Take a look at the first 8th rounds of their fight.:deal
     
  4. lern1079

    lern1079 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So Louis learned something after defeat. So Cotto can't do the same?

    All those fighters who avenged their losses got completely laid out which Cotto did not and yet they came back to win their rematches.

    My point is that people can't just dismiss a fighters chance and specially one who is as talented as Cotto is.

    Sorry but your comprehension levels are flawed.
     
  5. lern1079

    lern1079 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For all those of you claiming Cotto has stamina issues please name 4 fights were he was fading or that you saw stamina issues.
     
  6. The Mighty Bolo

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    He can't hurt Margarito. Nothing he does makes Margo honest enough to stay outside.
     
  7. BigReg

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    Louis was the bigger, more talented fighter. He made 1 mistake that caused him to get stopped. Cotto has several weaknesses that cost him against Margo. I'm not sure he can overcome all of them

    Coming back from a 1 punch KO is easier than coming back from getting beatdown. Lewis and Louis were the bigger, more talented fighters. They just had to avoid that one big punch in order to win. There were several things that went wrong for Cotto. He's facing a much more difficult task than Lewis and Louis.

    That's fine, but your reasoning is flawed.

    Clearly it's the other way around. Your logic and reasoning is way off. Using the Louis' fights wth Scheiling as well as Lewis' fights with McCall and Rahman as a means prove why Cotto can win the rematch makes no sense. The fights are too dissimilar. I tried to explain to you why this is the case, but you don't seem to be able to comprehend. Now if you can find a fight where a smaller fighter was broken down and beat into submission, only to come back and win the rematch less than a year later, your argument will be a lot stronger. As it stands, you're comparing apples and oranges which is why your argument is terrible.
     
  8. BigReg

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    Lovemore N'Dou.
     
  9. beatsy

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    Sorry, don't agree with this post at all. you can't write off cotto just for losing against margo. you are basically writing him off as a ww after 1 loss :huh. cotto has looked much better at ww in my opinion.
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    Too big, too strong. Don't see it happening. Margo will chase him again and break him down. Cotto has shown in previous fights that his defense is not that good. If he can work on that, he may pull an upset on Margo. Until then, I don't see it happening. Most fighters usually don't change over night.
     
  11. EL-MATADOR

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    Cotto will win UD to set up the trilogy
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

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    Cotto can certainly beat Margarito - but would need to get himself into tiptop shape in order to do so.

    He needs to try harder to get off his body shots, whilst using the evasive skills that were so effective in the earlier rounds. You need to be able to make Margarito miss - not simply running away which Cotto did at certain other times.

    Another essential for him would be the jab - Williams kept Margo at bay successfully, though a height and reach advantage would help clearly.

    And to think....

    People were thinking that Cotto would beat Mayweather!

    He would get his ass whipped good and proper.
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    At LWW he was a shell, whilst at WW he looks healthy and strong.
     
  14. ocelot

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    Margarito: too big, too strong, too busy, too good a chin, too much stamina.
     
  15. lern1079

    lern1079 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My point is simple an you are trying to take everything too literally. I am not trying to compare physique, stature or anything in regards to Cotto vs Margo.

    My point was that because the first fight ended up in one way doesn't make the rematch an inevitable repeat of the first fight, which is how some of the Margo supporters here are treating this to be.

    That is it! Plain and Simple.