What is Vitlai Klitschko’s most impressive boxing stastics?

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    With all due respect, do you mind if I ask why you felt Lewis was lucky? Just because he came from behind to force a corner stoppage by the doctor does not necessarily constitute luck. He was steadily nailing Vitali and from the looks of that cut, the stoppage was rightful. I'm not a klitschko hater either, in fact if you rememeber I supported your arguments on Vitali a few weeks ago in the classic section when you and Sonny were having it out. I just think we need to give credit where credit is due.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Lewis was lucky because Vitlai was training for a ten round match vs an unknown guy. Had Vitlai known it was Lewis all along, he trains much harder than he did and prepares for Lewis. I think we can all agree on that.

    There was no communication between the ring doctor and Vitlai’s corner that I saw on TV, and like I said Lewis was dead tired and fell hard on his stool after the 6th round. I feel the 7th round could have been Vitlai's big as Lewis punched himself out, but the ring doctor stopped it on cuts. The cut wasn't bleeding bad when the fight was stopped.

    In additon, if truth is told, Vitali also had a small cut ( likely from sparring ) which could be seen in pictures leading up to the fight. Lewis re-opened it, it was the one below the eye, on the cheek.

    By the way, here's how the stoppage went down:

    Souza: The cut was severe to the point where it was notable, it was bleeding, but I was very successful keeping it under control and that is about all a cut man can do is keep it under control. There are times after three or four rounds that we could stop it but as the doctor just said it was one hell of a cut. I do not think at that time the fight should have been stopped. My thoughts were in two more rounds Vitali would have won the fight and I was thinking to myself get two rounds and we will be all right. As far as my concern about the cut, I am no fool, I know it was serious but again I had it under control.

    Question: Was there ever a point when Vitali told you he could not see?

    Souza: Never. There was no doubt in my mind that he could see. He was seeing well.

    Question: What was your reaction when they stopped the fight?

    Souza: I was working when the fight was stopped and I was shocked. Vitali jumped up and I stepped back and looked around. We never got an indication from the referee, not even a warning that they were about to stop the fight. All I remember seeing was that the fight was over, Vitali jumping up and chaos.

    DiNicola: What many have been asking is what happens next and I will outline briefly what is being considered. Obviously the final decision will be up to Vitali and his promoter and their advisors. Two things are being considered. One possible step, it is likely that Vitali will ask the WBC to order an immediate rematch under the WBC rules which provide that in the case of extraordinary circumstances surrounding a bout, or where there is a public demand, or whereas in the interest of the sport, the WBC has the power to order an immediate rematch. So that is a step that is under active consideration and I would say probably that Vitali would ask the WBC to order an immediate rematch. In light of the circumstances surrounding the stoppage of the fight, we have an option of asking the California Commission to review the circumstances surrounding the injury to Vitali and the stoppage of the fight. A final decision on that has not been made pending our own review of the facts and circumstances and we will probably make a decision in the next few days or so. Indeed we have only five days to make a decision with respect to taking the matter to the commission, so we will have to make that decision by Thursday.
     
  3. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    vitali has an impressive boxing statistic?

    i guess id have to say his knockouts. the man could punch
     
  4. Haye

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  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Did you read the reply to this? Vitlai started out 27-0, 27Ko's Valero is 23-0, 23 Ko's. So if we do a fair apples to apples comparison here, Valerio needs 4 more Ko's to even up with Vitlai's start. Bull ****, huh?

    I said, give Valero a few fights ( say 10 more ) , and his KO% will be less than Vitlai's. I also said Valero beat more fighters with losing records than Vitlai did.
     
  6. Fighting Weight

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    Well when VITLAY gets in the ring with Peter we'll then talk....chances are he won't make it through training camp. If he suddenly does by some miracle become fit enough to fight, it makes his ducking of Rahman even more obvious doesn't it?

    Regarding Lewis avoiding a rematch, read the post at the top of this thread - it sums the facts up perfectly. Facts, as opposed to the spin the Klit-ites routinely spew on this subject.
     
  7. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only way you can do an apples for apples comparison is to have Valero fight the same fighters VITLAY did, at the same time and at the same age. Apples for apples comparisons here are impossible. The fact is a lot of fighters have impressive KO percentages, it's who they did it against that makes it great or average. George Foremans KO percentage is a million times more impressive than VITLAYS.
     
  8. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is this the same guy that according to other Klit-ites made the cut far worse by going over it with a terry towel?:rofl
     
  9. barneyrub

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    And Vitali clearly avoided a rematch with Chris Byrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He knew he was lucky to get out of that fight when he did.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Foreman fought many tomato cans. Far more than Vitali. And his KO% is lower than Vitali's. I see math is not your thing.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Where is your Source? Nah, Vitlai wanted a re-match with Byrd. Don King did not want to lose a belt!!!!!
     
  12. BewareofDawg

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    Why are you still riding this horse? Do you really believe Vitali was ducking Rahman? He holds possibly every advantage over Rahman and it would most definitely been an easy win for him. He had legitimate injuries that prevented him from fighting. Give it up already.
     
  13. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    VITLAY only fought 2 elite heavyweights, and lost both times. Foreman beat better fighters in his 40's than VITLAY beat in his prime, never mind what he did in his 'first' career in the game. I see logic and reasoning are not your thing :nut
     
  14. 2smart4u

    2smart4u Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch Did you forget the MCCALL fight or the MAVORIC fight or the BRUNO fight ect ? Oh and BRIGGS also staggered him in the first round ! LL was fighting pretty close to his best like it or not ! :deal There was no noticable decline in LL at all ! In fact alot of people thought the TYSON fight to be LL at his best ! ( Im not saying I agree with this but he was far from finished ) :good ( And please with the GOLOTA and GRANT comparisons ) ! And for the record I quess if LL had never been granted rematches you would claim he couldnt defeat his conquerers ! Your logic is flawed ! LL didnt like his chances in the rematch and decided to retire !:D
     
  15. Fighting Weight

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    Well maybe, just maybe (and this is an interesting concept) if VITLAY had managed to beat the guys you all seem to think he was so much better than the first time he fought them, he wouldn't have spent the next 10 years whining about them not rematching him :good