What is your SMW top 25?

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  1. denilo

    denilo Member Full Member

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    This is the official WBA ranking. Great list.
    Personally I think that Gusmyl perdomo, Karo Murat, Lukas Wilaschek and perhaps a few others are a little to high!


    1. DANILO HAUSSLER (OC) GER
    2 GUSMYL PERDOMO (LAC) VEN
    3. JEAN PASCAL (NABA) CAN
    4. STJEPAN BOZIC (WBA I/C) CRO
    5. KARO MURAT (EBU) ITA
    6. DIMITRI SARTISON GER
    7. MADS LARSEN DEN
    8. LUKAS WILASCHEK POL
    9. MARCUS JOHNSON USA
    10. ALLAN GREEN USA
    11. ANDRE WARD USA
    12. ANDRE DIRRELL USA
    13. JEAN PAUL MENDY FRA
    14. VITALY TSYPKO UKR
    15. VICTOR OGANOV (PABA)
     
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  2. Coogee2034

    Coogee2034 Member Full Member

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    y is allen green ranked so high???he hasn't fought in ages n hasn't really fought any of note and won
     
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  3. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    25 ??? why not top 100 ?
     
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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    There was a time, long ago, when I thought I knew enough to rank 25 fighters in the right order. The more I learn about boxing, the more I know I know ****...so now, I cannot even do a Top 10, nevermind a Top 25...:D :-(
     
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  5. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I'll try and re-rank soon. Obviously things have changed a bit....
     
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  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Explain:think
     
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  7. Laudrup

    Laudrup Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Who the hell is Lukas Wilascheck. :yep

    Corrupt *******s WBA, huh:-(
     
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  8. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He is a rather unknown polish dude :blood
     
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  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its like swimming on water. Hopkins lost to Taylor 2x, Taylor lost to Pavlik 2x, now after 3 years Hoplkins schooled Pavlik ... so who is the best ? It all depends on the timing, motivation and styles.

    All rankings are personal until there is dominat champion who beats everybody else, but even then the haters say he isnt as good, the competition is weak. So as the man said ... its all ****.
     
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  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Word
     
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Not just that, but with fighters who haven't fought at least one world class fighter, how are we supposed to know how good they are? Ideally, before ranking anyone, you'd want to have seen them against at least two world class fighters...one puncher, and one pressure fighter/swarmer/brawler, if he's a boxer, or a boxer, if he's a pressure fighter/swarmer/brawler.
     
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  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They should fight each other to get proper justification. Now we see that Bute is better than Andrade in general but was lucky. Even if the judge count Bute out I would rate Bute ahead of Andrade. But Who is better Bute or Kessler? ... its just my personal assumption that Kessler is better untill they really meet in the ring.
     
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  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    If Bute had not beaten the count, I don't see how he could have been considered better, as Andrade would at least have been better h2h...

    Kessler looks miles better than everyone else...but how good is Froch, for example? Hard to say...
     
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  14. denilo

    denilo Member Full Member

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    The WBC ranking, actually quite decent compared to the WBA, of course some are missing or low of political reason, but the listed are at least contender or conter-like types. Perhaps I am being ignorant here, but who is this Karo Murat? has anyone actually seen him box? no boxrec-answers please.

    1 .- Carl Froch (GB) BBBoC/COMM
    2 .- Jermain Taylor (US)
    3 .- Jean Pascal (Haiti/Canada) LATINO/NABF
    4 .- Jeff Lacy (US)
    5 .- Andre Ward (US)
    6 .- Karo Murat (Germany) EBU
    7 .- Anthony Mundine (Australia)
    8 .- Alejandro Berrio (Colombia)
    9 .- Andre Dirrell (US)
    10 .- Markus Beyer (Germany)



    The WBO list looks decent as well.





    Champ
    JOE CALZAGHE (Sup Champ)GB
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    1Karoly Balzsay (Int-Cont)HUN2Jermain TaylorUSA3Denis InkinRUS4Andre Ward (NABO)USA5Fulgencio ZuñigaCOL6Victor Oganov (Asia-Pacific)RUS7Andre DirrellUSA8Allan GreenUSA9Jean Paul MendyFRA10Jean PascalCAN


    Even the IBF rankings looks decent compared to wba. Hell what is wrong with WBA? Okay, Tsypko at 2 stinks:tired but come on Gusmyl Perdomo at two:nut :nut




    CHAMPION : Lucian Bute CanadaTitle won : Mandatory : Defended :
    WBA :Joe CalzagheEnglandWBO :Joe CalzagheEngland
    1 Librado Andrade United States2 Vitaly Tsypko Ukraine3 Robert Stieglitz Germany4 Sakio Bika South Africa5 Alejandro Berrio Colombia6 Jeff Lacy United States7 Edison Miranda Colombia8 Jermain Taylor United States9 Allan Green United States10 Andre Direll United States
     
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  15. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Karo Murat has some decent skills but nothing that makes him a contender for a world title.
     
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