What really happened when DLH fought B-Hop??

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  1. Thread Stealer

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    We won't know for sure since De La Hoya hasn't allowed HBO to weigh him on fight night since 2000.
     
  2. imp4pdabest

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    Yep. DLH looked way bigger than Money May, but like PBF says "size doesnt matter, because at the end of the day, skills pays the bills."

    Mayweather proved it, but Oscar couldn't.
     
  3. divac

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    He's refused for a long time now because when he was allowing to get weighed, he was being criticized for being alot bigger than his opposition.
     
  4. divac

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    Imo size did matter even in DLH-Mayweather.....
    .....no way would DLH have been competitive without the size advantage in his favor, but the huge disparity in other area's, mainly skill, is what got the job done for Mayweather.
     
  5. imp4pdabest

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    Yep, thats true too, but Mayweather is saying basically saying skill overcomes size eventually. But you are correct
     
  6. Drexl

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    Proof or STFU.
     
  7. divac

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    My own two eyes is proof enough for me. If your eyes dont function for you, sorry and too bad is all I can say!
     
  8. Drexl

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    Hopkins looks bigger than DLH. DLH looks bigger than Floyd.

    How much bigger is pure speculation. So, again - PROOF OR STFU.
     
  9. cuchulain

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    It's obvious to anyone who doesn't own a white cane that the disparity in size between Bernard and Oscar is much greater than that between Oscar and Floyd.

    As you pointed out:

     
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    Really? :rofl
     
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  12. Thread Stealer

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    DLH weighed unofficially at 161 for the 2nd Chavez fight, but usually was around the mid 150s during his WW days when he allowed HBO to weigh him.

    As for the Hopkins fight, well, who knows really?

    Lampley said during the fight, I think the 7th round, that Hopkins weighed unoffically at 169.
     
  13. divac

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    If thats true, DLH if I'm not mistaken gained anywhere from 10-15 lbs after his official weigh-'ins.....of course this is only speculation, but if DLH just gained 8 lbs after weighing in at 155 lbs, it would have brought him up to 163 lbs. I say he was likely above that weight, because the way he fought Hopkins, he was right there at center ring right in front of him......
    Not a whole lot of lateral movement from DLH, which leads me to believe that his game plan called for being able to have the mass to move Hopkins.
    Only speculation of course, but my guess is that Hopkins had about a 5 pound advantage on DLH, and probably no more than 7 lbs.

    One of Mayweather's fans could probably back this up, but he's been in fights where he's officially weighed in, and actually lost weight re-weighing in at fight time....not sure if it was the Baldomir fight, but I think it was one of his welterweight fights.

    Mayweather usually does'nt gain more than a handful of lbs , maybe 3 to 5 lbs.....he weighed in at 150 lbs for DLH, I doubt seriously that he was any higher than that at fight time.....
    DLH who weighed in at 154 lbs, was no doubt well above 160 lbs at fight time, my guess is DLH fight time was about 163-165 lbs, I say he gained at least a good 10 lbs from the official weigh-in, which would have given him in my estimation close to a 15 lbs advantage on Mayweather.
    A much bigger advantage imo than Hopkins had on DLH.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    I think it was the Judah fight where he was 146 for both the weigh-in and unofficial weight. I know Mayweather weighed 149 on fight night against Baldomir (who was either 161 or 162), 138 for both Castillo fights (who was 147), 136 or 137 for Corrales (I remember distinctly that Chico was 10 lbs. heavier).

    People have said that Mayweather weighed 148 on fight night against De La Hoya (I think Floyd said it), but I don't think it was ever verified.

    De La Hoya was actually outweighed on fight night by Mosley in the first fight, unofficially. He was weighed to be 152, and Mosley 155.

    I think DLH was unofficially 156 for the Coley fight.

    To my knowledge, those were the last 2 times he was weighed unofficially on fight night.