What Should HBO Counter Program Pac - Mosley with???

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    So you cannot answer if you would want them to or not? Serious? :huh Here, let me show you... NO, I would want competeing cards. Don't care for it. See how easy that was?

    Look, you aren't telling anyone anything new. We've all seen the competing cards on same days. And it very rarely benefits fans.

    And I could care less about a BHops card when the reality is, we are talking about he biggest draw fighting right now in Pac. And his fight w/ Shane is going to be big.

    And how did that BHops PPV do BTW?
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He's put up good arguments against you. You come back with almost nothing.

    Maybe it's a signal that the competing cards isn't what fans want. You really haven't made any case as to why it's a good idea for HBO to do so. None. And your examples do not take into consideration the draws I mentioned.
     
  3. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    a competing card that night could be used on an open weekend for a decent fight. spitefully countering Arum won't benefit the fans.
     
  4. dvb

    dvb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lets do it,why stall the fight,


    alverez vs berto!
     
  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think using a punitive strategy to "punish" Arum for making a business decision by using the Showtime CBS network is counter intuitive especially since any fight they make that day will essentially cut into their own profit margin.

    Even if they have good fight with a stacked under card, Pacquiao would likely steal away potential viewers that would otherwise watch the fight. Scheduling for a different date would enable them to maximize revenues for all parties involved. You can make money without shooting your own foot.

    Right now Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquaio are the 2 biggest draws in boxing; it makes no sense to try to compete with them if you don't have to.

    My answer to the OP; they shouldn't counter it with anything. They should sit back watch and see how this Showtime-CBS thing works out. If it proves successful they should leverage their own connection with other Time Warner owned networks like TNT or TBS to do the same.
     
  6. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    There you go Lance, I'm not arguing.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Neither am I. Just discussing the neccessity of why HBO should counter, when history shows competing cards are never a good idea, even if it might be for one party for one day.

    I will say, it's a good question. And it will be interesting to see what HBO does next. Again, if HBO planned on putting a prety good card on Free HBO, then it's a little more feasable. Surely most with access to HBO would try to watch both. Record one, watch it later.

    But I just wonder if HBO would tackle what would most likley be, a losing situation. Going against what will be the niggest fight of the year, while looking to pay good fighters to compete on what would be a low rated show.
     
  8. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    I want competing cards every weekend of the year. There were 2 weekends in November that were great both HBO and Showtime had cards on. Shiiit I want a boxing Channel, But that's just me.

    B-Hop had 330,000 PPV buys fyi. Top rank doesnt release their number but I'm sure Cotto did ok.
     
  9. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    I was responding to you saying I have no arguement.

    History shows HBO has a "history" of putting on competing broadcast. They have done this many times to Showtime and Arum.
     
  10. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    They shouldn't counter whatsoever. It'd be declaring war on Arum and Showtime, it's a dumb idea that would only lose them money.
     
  11. Real_Truth

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    A hardcore porn flick with Scarlett Johansson being gangbanged by 4 BBC's. Oh **** wrong section
     
  12. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    I hear that great advice. can you imagine a 24/7 on TNT right after the NBA? Epic, but if they did decide to be petty and counter what do they have? what can you think of? hauser said in his article the first thing Ross did was call Haymon and Shaffer to say how much he enjoys doing business with them:huhwhat kind of BS is that. Ross is salty.
     
  13. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    They declared war on Showtime along time ago. Showtime would go the first weekend of every month and HBO would counter. Hauser felt the need to point out in his article after noting the first thing Ross did after getting the news was call goldenboy and Haymon. they also wouldn't lose money as they don't get paid by ratings.

    Some may not like it and that's fine but it's not an idea I just pulled out my ass.
     
  14. Ring Master

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    That would be epic! Alverez has the power to hurt Berto but can he deliver it. This fight has to hurry up and happend b/c i can't see Canelo making 147 for much longer.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I understand. Competing "Head to head" on the same day doesn't necessarily mean it's "competing" BTW.

    HBO stands to take a loss if they try to go against the PPV.