What was Ali's biggest win

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Which Was Ali's biggest win

  1. Foreman

    46 vote(s)
    79.3%
  2. Fraizer-Ali 3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Liston 1

    12 vote(s)
    20.7%
  1. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    against which fighter was it?
     
  2. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman IMO - he was every bit as feared/revered as Liston, & he had bombed out 2 fighters that already beat/troubled Ali.
     
  3. Philosopher

    Philosopher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Liston 1, Foreman...both eclipse any other win in my eyes
     
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  4. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston, Foreman, tough to choose, they were both such epic wins
     
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    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston and Foreman are about level with each other. Unforgettable.
     
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  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    They were all huge wins. Liston being a huge surprise shocking the world. Foreman was similar but Ali was shopworn being the conventional view at the time.
    The Frazier fight was different. People expected Ali to win going in but it's what happened in the ring that makes this perhaps Ali's moment. What he had to overcome in the ring that nite.

    Foreman and Liston were both scarier going in but I guarantee by round 5 neither of them had Ali praying to Allah the way he was in the Philippines. Ali was playing with his food by round 6 in Zaire.
    Ali showed legendary toughness and courage that the gritiest Bareknuckle brawler from 1890 would have respected in Manila.
     
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  7. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Liston cuz im bias!
     
  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Certainly not Frazier. I would marginally favour the Liston fight over Foreman if pushed.
     
  9. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will say Liston 2(which isn't an option) because it proved Liston 1 wasn't a fluke.
     
  10. The Long Count

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    Liston. Nobody knew Ali at that time. At least with Foreman - people knew his track record that he was a great fighter.
     
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    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’d have to go with Foreman although Liston 1 does run it close.
    In both he was a huge underdog against two opponents who were almost considered unbeatable certainly against the contenders who were out there.
     
  12. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    I would say Foreman--Ali had to use his mind power to win that one--couldn't rely on his physical gifts and youth as he was able to do in the 1st Liston fight. (And Foreman in October 1974 was regarded as invincible as Sonny was in February 1964.)
     
  13. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier-Ali II was a better win than Manilla, and even then the win was somewhat spoiled by excessive holding. Fight of the Century Joe was Ali's only chance to beat what was the best version of Smokin' Joe anyway.

    Gotta be Foreman by virtue of it being a show of grit, extreme faith, and that subtle defensive wizardy Ali was capable of (with Archie Moore saying after the fight that George failed to realize he is in the ring with an escape artist of a highest caliber.) Liston I was a huge upset as well, though Ali was younger and stylistically harder for the aged Liston in hindsight.

    Foreman-Ali is still outshined by the impossible decision Pep scored against a thriving version of Saddler over the dreaded fifteen rounds (and Sandy with his power, mauling, and conditioning, was an absolute nightmare to go against in the last five rounds.)
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It would’ve been Liston, but Liston wasn’t 100% and the rematch was bs. So it’s Foreman.
     
  15. clinikill

    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    I have to go with Liston. Ali was a 7-1 underdog (as opposed to 4-1 against Foreman) and it was Muhammad's big break as he won his first championship. The Foreman victory is second, though.
     
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