What's Calzaghe's best win?

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  1. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    They "chased" Jones for a fight?
    Why didn't they fight at light heavyweight. and actually make the fight a possiblity then?

    Roy Jones never defended his world titles against an opponent who had never fought at the weight. So what is so special about the WBO super middleweight champion that wouldv'e made the p4p #1 fighter in the sport defend his light heavyweight title against him?
    No name, no money, never fought at the weight...
     
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  2. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    So I either repeat myself consistantly, or I don't "even know what my own views are"? :-( Doesn't make any sense.

    and btw, I was being serious before - I'm not discrediting you for only following boxing for 5 years. I'm just saying you didn't have to sit through years of Calzaghe's "weak spell" of defending against nobody what-so-ever. You might feel differently if you had. Because it broke my heart as far as respect for him was concerned.
     
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  3. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh it does. You have automated responses in a certain thread.

    But then another you will express a different view and repeat.

    Can I ask why your not heartbroken over Hatton whom many argue did **** all from 2001 to 2005 and even then many feel the timing of the fight (not me) was cynical in nature given Kostya's inactivity and decline?
     
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  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Wheres the "Kessler, a prime fighter who hadn't lost around until he fought Calzaghe" option?
     
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    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Wheres the "Kessler, a prime fighter who hadn't lost around until he fought Calzaghe" option?
     
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  6. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe were a waste of time for a period of years. When Hatton fought Pedersen I was as pissed off with him as much as Calzaghe. Warren being the main reason.

    When Hatton finally got the fight with Tszyu and became champion, he left Warren and within a year had fought a welterweight world champion because all the names were in that division, notably the p4p #1. Something Calzaghe didn't do for the previous 10 years!

    He continued to fight in America and call out Mayweather after his fights on HBO "Mayweather's station" or whatever Floyd called it.

    Hatton did EVERYTHING possible to get Floyd into a fight, and he did it within 3 years of becoming champion. EVERYTHING Calzaghe didn't do for 10 years when Roy was the equivalent.

    My respect for Hatton is #1, unequaled in British boxing. For giving me what I'd waited 10 years for Calzaghe to do. In a third of that time.
     
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  7. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins and Kessler were more skilled operators but Jeff Lacy was Calzaghes finest win, surely by the magnitude of people pickin Jeff to knock him out cold, to win every minute of every round, while being the underdog was mesmerising. The finest perforamce by any British fighter is any word title fight ever!
     
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  8. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did you feel when Hatton only took the fight with a whole host of ready made excuses at his disposal?

    When he rejected it 3 times when it would have been for the undisputed JNR Welter title citing the fact that he was not ready for it in late 2005...and only developed a huge urge to move to 147 when a certain Baldomir became champ.

    Hey mate in regards to Hatton im quite balanced. But these are arguments that people have legitmately levelled against Hatton and they are not easily disspelled.
     
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  9. TFFP

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    Yet he never had the bollocks to step up the plate and fight a guy 50 miles down the road, at risk of upsetting the applecart

    As far as I am aware Calzaghe never had a rival living down the road in Anglesey or some ****, that could have undermined my respect for him somewhat :yep
     
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  10. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Calzaghe has always faced up to his domestic rivals, Eubank, Reid, Woodhall + Delaney.
     
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  11. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Ready made excuses? He fought the p4p #1 fighter in the world outside of his own division. I don't care about excuses if they fight. The only excuses I have a problem with are ones about why you didn't fight.(Calzaghe)

    Hatton rejected Floyd 3 times? did he?
    He fought Mayweather, so rejecting serious contracts if offered previously is unlikely. Otherwise why try so hard to get a fight he'd already rejected? Doesn't hold much water imo.

    He "only developed a huge urge to move to 147 when a certain Baldomir became champ" - he moved up to 147 within two fights of being 140 champion. he hardly waited for the perfect opportunity, he did it straight away.

    They aren't strong arguments imo, and what resulted was THE biggest fight in boxing. I cannot argue with that, I cannot ask for any better.
     
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  12. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull****...he never faced Froch :fire


    :rofl :rofl :rofl Joking.

    Nah the Witter example is quite different. I in actual fact only really hold Hatton to task over it as of now. There are very cynical financial motivations behind Hattons choice of fights. That much is very clear to those that know a bit about boxing and its politics.

    That is not to say he hasn't fought anyone or for that matter beat anyone of worth. He quite clearly has. He must fight Witter though sooner rather than later.
     
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  13. TFFP

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    Exactly. People can say what they want about Joe, but at least he dealt with the guys in his own backyard

    Hatton has never proven himself to be the best 140lb fighter in Britain. His whole 'rise to the top' has been smoke and mirrors stuff :yep
     
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  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You didn't know that? The Mayweather nuthuggers had a field day with it, all over the forum in 2005 direct links to Ray Hatton quotes. Hatton fans like myself at that time spluttered something about Ricky needing to build up his profile in the US etc etc

    I can't be arsed getting into this one the now but I do promise Ill come back to you. I did an appraisal of Hattons career before. I think you will find we are very much in allignement in regards to Ricky Hatton.
     
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  15. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Junior Witter is not Hattons Carl Froch, he is hatton Mikkel Kessler. he simply has to fight him.
     
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