What's your hevyweight top 10 now?

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Champion: TBD
    1. Joshua
    2. Wilder
    3. Parker
    4. Ortiz
    5. Povetkin
    6. Miller
    7. Whyte
    8. Takam
    9. Pulev
    10. Ruiz

    Just outside top 10:
    Hughie F, Bryant Jennings, Wach, Mansour, Breazale, Chisora

    I don't have Bellew as I don't see one person on the list he
    can beat.
     
  2. BoxingNL

    BoxingNL Dutch P4P Champion Full Member

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    1. AJ
    2. DW
    3. Povetkin
    4. Parker
    5. Ortiz
    6. Whyte
    7. Miller
    8. Bellew
    9. Kabayel
    10. Pulev

    I'm not rating T. Fury, because he hasn't fought in 2,5 years.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    At anybody who can't actually give a comprehensive valid reason about their list.

    I'm not going to question ones here bc I'll be here a minute.

    I will say I dare anyone to convince me H.Fury, Bellew, Ruiz or Kownacki belong in a CURRENT TOP 10 list? Nope. Lol
     
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  4. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd agree on all counts but Hughie Fury, can't understand how he wouldn't fit in after a very close fight with a world champion 2 fights ago, then following it up with an easy win that a world class fighter should produce against a British champion.

    I had his fight with Parker a draw personally, with Parker clawing back the last 2 rounds to get even that
     
  5. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    Tough titty for Wlad.

    Once you lose the lineal championship, you don't run the show. The other guy does.

    The lineal championship can only be won and lost in the ring.

    Fury won it against Wlad & last time I checked, hadn't lost it in the ring.

    Whoever wins out of Joshua & Wilder would do well to fight him to claim their righful place in the history books.

    Tyson could have ignored Spinks after unifying all the alphabet belts but didn't.

    His legacy would be greatly diminished if he hadn't fought him.

    Same goes for Joshua & Wilder. Closing the loop against Fury is a more historically significant fight than a WBA "mandatory" against Povetkin.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    So basically according to your ridiculous theory, if Fury never fights again but refuses to retire officially then he will remain lineal HW champion until he's 90.
     
  7. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If somebody doesn,t fight in over 1 year ,{ doesn,t matter who} than he should,t be in anyone,s top 20.
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hughie Fury looked good on Parkers reluctance to throw punches often.

    Parker has a habit making guys LOOK better then they are. Just about all his top fights show this.

    Parker however is proven.

    Basing Hughie on one fight as top 10 ?

    He has no real power and stylistically point fights.

    Beating Sexton really doesn't suggest much.

    He's also declined fights with Wilder, Whyte, Joshua and Joyce.

    Are you sure you want to include him currently in top 10 ?

    He's definitely not making my list i don't see any justified reason.

    I believe anyone on my list defeats him.
     
  9. Hit The Road Jack

    Hit The Road Jack Member banned Full Member

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    Oleksandr Usyk, Murat Gassiev, Filip Hrgovic, Ivan Dychko, Joe Joyce, Oleksandr Teslenko,Sergey Kuzmin..will all be in the top 10 within 18 months.
     
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  10. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you're confusing a reluctance to throw with an inability to cut the ring off properly.
    Parker was made to look bad, rather than Hughie to look good.

    I have no doubt Parker is proven, hence why he ranks highly for me.

    I struggle to take your accusation of Fury in my top 10 based on a single fight when your top 10 contains Joe Joyce particularly, Joyce may well be on his way to that but, suggesting he deserves a place above Fury at the moment is a little too close to ludicrous in my book.

    He has enough power, and beating Sexton wouldn't prove much no, even the manner he did it in doesn't really... It was expected because it is expected that he is well above that level, which is what it did show.

    He wouldn't have been ready for any of the fights mentioned by you previously until probably now, and yeah I'm certain he is a top 10 heavyweight. Particularly since that's a much easier feat to achieve these days. It really only takes a good performance against a world champ and enough comfortable wins against has beens or other contenders/domestic fighters. Boxes ticked for a lower top 10 ranking in the current HW division.

    I can't see any of Miller, Joyce or Brezeale beating Hughie Fury, I'm sorry.
     
  11. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Tyson Fury
    2. Alexander Povetkin
    3. Anthony Joshua
    4. Deontay Wilder
    5. Hughie Fury
    6. Luis Ortiz
    7. Joseph Parker
    8. Chris Arreola
    9. Carl Ruiz Jr
    10. Johnny Parker
     
  12. underwraps

    underwraps Active Member Full Member

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    1. AJ
    2. DW
    3. Povetkin
    4. Parker
    5. Ortiz
    6. Whyte
    7. H Fury
    8. Bellew
    9. Joyce
    10. Pulev
     
  13. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    If Fury never fights again, people will recognise the fighter who does enough to establish a new lineage. The same way they did with Wlad after Lennox Lewis retired.

    Fury has already made it clear he will be continuing his career so the point is moot.

    But in theory, yes, Lennox Lewis could come out of retirement & declare himself the true lineal champion and his earlier claim to the lineage would extinguish Fury's claim.

    Not really much different to property law.

    As of right now, Lennox Lewis is retired and isn't a factor in the division. Fury is "unretired" and is.

    He's the lineal champion.
     
  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Deontay Wilder
    2. Anthony Joshua
    3. Luis Ortiz
    4. Alexander Povetkin
    5. Joseph Parker
    6. Hughie Fury
    7. Jarrell Miller
    8. Dillian Whyte
    9. Adam Kownacki
    10. Tony Bellew
     
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  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hughie did absolutely little in that fight, even laying on the ropes stagnate leaning back vs Parker who would beat him 9 out of ten times bc he has nothing coming back to hurt him.

    One thing Parkers struggled with was accuracy prior to that fight.

    He could barely land clean shots on statue Cojanu who just stood there...

    I'm not confusing anything.

    The fact is Hughie is going to struggle severely right now against the guys I listed.

    It's why he didn't take the guys he was offered like 4 and 0 Joyce bc even Peter knows that guy would derail him. It's why he's once again calling guys now for payday title shots without fighting anyone relevant.

    Being a top 10 is not easy in any era...

    Even this one Which has only ONE prime guy who is Wilder.

    The rest are past or haven't reached it yet.
     
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