What's your hevyweight top 10 now?

GALVATRON · Dec 13, 2018

LD Boxer-Puncher said: ↑

I'm not talking about the years to come. I'm talking about now. Now is a period following one of the weakest eras in the division and is showing some promise for becoming strong again. But that's the extent of it. As such, it is still relatively weak for the time being.

The second bunch of names you mentioned wouldn't be murmured in the same category as great fighters from other eras.

Yes. Match-ups coming, in the years to come. We're talking about now though.

What reason? He's moving on to better things? He's saying he wants Joshua and the lot now. Give it a chance and we'll see. He wasn't ready before, but his camp seems to be backing the idea that he is now. I don't see a problem.

Yeah less calibre than Hughie Fury, but that's because those guys don't really need to be turning fights down. They make money by going round fighting whoever, and waiting for a big prospect to come around that spells a payday for them on Sky or BT or whatever else. Hughie is bigger than that, and I completely understand why they wouldn't take the route of a 4-0 fighter...who for some reason, deserves a place in your top 10, whilst Hughie Fury who made Parker look poor, does not because he hasn't fought enough decent level opponents by the way ... Ya couldn't write this sh**.

Those fights were completely different, Parker wasn't going to lose them and he seems to be someone who rises his performance as the challenge does the same. The Hughie Fury fight was different and that was plain to see for anyone. He just couldn't land punches it really is that simple. It wasn't lack of motivation or anything else. He just couldn't land clean enough times to even win in my opinion.

Again I'll challenge your placing of Joe Joyce, which is based off no fight, if we're going to go down that line of questioning.

Takam is at 9 for me, two places behind Hughie, I'd have no qualms with you placing him above, although I'd disagree with it slightly.

Maybe that's your mistake, you're just going based on records and who they've beat alone. See that's only part of it. You have to watch them box and judge based on HOW they do it too. Not just if they do it.
By that, is how Hughie is > Takam, because you and I both know Takam offers being a tough nut who is hard to shake, and little else. The same if you're honest with yourself, cannot be said of Hughie Fury.

A fact? No, it's your opinion. The bookies had Wlad Klitschko to beat Tyson Fury, Chris Eubank Jr to beat George Groves, but as far as I remember I was still running to the bank laughing that night after backing the winner by decision (they get a lot wrong). The bookmakers is a ridiculous way of backing your opinions up, you realise those odds come from casual fans etc lumping on basically, the better promoted fighter, whom they've never even seen fight?

I'm not a Hughie fan actually, I'm neither here nor there about him, I just won't have you tell me you can't see how I include him when it's a more than logical inclusion in a top 10. Particularly if you're going to come with Joe Joyce and Jarell Miller in yours.
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Your challenge hasn't really amounted to much!

Joyce is 7 fights in and now OFFICIALLY a top 10 , where is Hughie ? Everyone can see Joyce could pose problems for guys like Ortiz could you say that about Hughie? Go through any of my rankings and you could see they hold up well! This title debate was a mere 8 months ago.

The real funny thing is Hughie did decline a Joyce U.K title fight and how many people 3 months ago you think pick Hughie?

You also had Parker over Whyte and Hughie over PuleV both which proved to be incorrect. I also added Fury to the number 2 spot as soon as he came back! Not only did I get the rankings right ,Fury replaced Wilder as the number 2 HW OFFICIALLY!

LD Boxer-Puncher · Dec 13, 2018

GALVATRON said: ↑

Your challenge hasn't really amounted to much!

Joyce is 7 fights in and now OFFICIALLY a top 10 , where is Hughie ? Everyone can see Joyce could pose problems for guys like Ortiz could you say that about Hughie? Go through any of my rankings and you could see they hold up well! This title debate was a mere 8 months ago.

The real funny thing is Hughie did decline a Joyce U.K title fight and how many people 3 months ago you think pick Hughie?

You also had Parker over Whyte and Hughie over PuleV both which proved to be incorrect. I also added Fury to the number 2 spot as soon as he came back! Not only did I get the rankings right ,Fury replaced Wilder as the number 2 HW OFFICIALLY!
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You didn't bring this back from 8 months ago.... Surely? Hahaha wow, I feel sorry for you.

What is it that I said which was wrong exactly? Baring in mind we were talking about then, not now. You had a fighter with 4 fights in a top 10. An absolutely ridiculous placing. Not once did I say he cannot make it in, just that he wasn't in after 4 fights. A common sense statement.

Nor did I or would I say that Hughie could bother Ortiz much, or even that Whyte couldn't beat Parker, I would love to know where you've picked this up from? Are you making the mistake of a current ranking being based on a head to head here? That's not how it works I'm afraid.

Your problem is you don't understand what a ranking is based on, if you believe it is based on 8 months and, 3 fights down the line then you should have a rethink. You can look at any ranking of 8 months ago from any official ranking organisation and there will be changes, that's not to say they didn't see it coming, its just that rankings are CURRENT.

Had you asked me to do a top 10 potential ranking then it would have been totally different. That's what was hilarious about yours. It was based on what might/probably could happen. Not what has. That's why you were wrong.

You're going to lecture me on Tyson Fury now? Hahaha, I have always said Tyson Fury beats them all when fit.
Another perfect example of how rankings work. AJ is still my number one ranked, although I favour Fury against him. You won't understand that, but it is the correct way to rank boxers

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