When analysing Floyd vs Manny, we came upon this ?

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  1. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    Why don't you and your "boys" AKA people you chat with on AIM break down how Floyd reacts when he fights a welterweight.

    Oh wait...
     
  2. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    :rofl Yeah. We really respect your insight. Floyd will dictate the pace. There is nothing Pac can do about it. What is he going to back floyd up with his lead left or jab.... he is just going to lunge in with punches while Floyd stands there flat footed... Floyd gives you constant movement.. Not no bull**** like Cotto. I fire my combo and I will stand here like an idiot while you respond. Floyd is going to bamboozle that mother****er. Pac will not be able to get off and he will be reaching and spending most of the fight trying to get in his punches while getting jabbed in the face and pot shotted himself.
     
  3. IVLG

    IVLG OBJECTIVITY IS BACK LOL Full Member

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    Manny has improved overall but has he improved against slick boxers or counter punchers, NO because he hasn't faced any since JMM.
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd is open to getting hit during a brawl. Hatton showed that with decent footwork and steady aggression you can give up some hits to land on Floyd. Floyd could not bike fast enough to get away from Hatton. Given Pac's chin, I don't think Pac is worried about getting hit by Floyd. He will revel in "tasting his power" and he'll probably just tee off on Floyd like Hatton tried to do. If Hatton could push Floyd around for the those 6/7 rounds, Pac can too.
     
  5. amar1234

    amar1234 Member Full Member

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    Khan can help him prepare for that...his speed, granted it was a short showing, against salita looked lightning quick
     
  6. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Two things to the above idiot.. Hatton knows how to cut the ring off..... Hatton did a lot of pushing and a lot less hitting. Pacman does not cut the ring off like Hatton or even a Castillo ..... Hatton could not cut the ring off on Cotto when he had him hurt and almost done. Unless Pac perfects that part of his game in the few months of the fight all that bull**** goes out the window.
     
  7. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Khan is quick but sloppy. Khan does not even have a decent defense. He is upright and not a slick fighter. His ring tendencies, punches, movements are nothing like Floyds.
     
  8. amar1234

    amar1234 Member Full Member

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    Dude i was talking about khans speed
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Omg bull**** bull****, moron, idiot. Anything else you want to call out?

    Apparently you were too busy being badass to notice that what Hatton is good at doing worked for a while against Floyd. Given this, it will probably be an aspect that they will work on improving or adding to Pac's gameplan.

    But ****, if we all thought like you training camp is worthless cuz since Pac never used pressure tactic before that he is incapable of improving. Seriously, if we know Floyd runs then logically one would improve one's chasing and cornering skills.

    Christ they are not club fighters, these are the two best fighters in the world and its their job to adapt to the biggest fight of their lives.
     
  10. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is gonna do this ,Pac is gonna do this and Pac is gonna do this again...............

    LOL, you Einsteins.............you think there will be nothing in return.............you noobs SEVERELY underestimate Mayweathers punching power. He will get Pacs respect, real quick, you can bank on that. Those slow telegraphed "make a appointment with Manny so he can adjust before it lands" Cotto shots are by no means a indicator that Pacs chin is as solid as some of you experts,lol, claim. I do not remember that Floyd ever did the chicken dance and even walked to the wrong corner...............Pac can and will be hurt in that fight, no doubt.

    BTW, for the 1000000000000000000000000 time I have been saying, Pac does not know how to cut off the ring, ain't got no jab (TheMOST important punch in boxing), does not move his head and is wiiiiiiidddddeeeee open when he lunges in. He is going to eat so many counters it is not even funny. Plus he cannot fight on the backfoot. Period. If Mayweather starts to back him up its game over..................

    This is like Christmas all over for PBF.......like when SRL finally got the balls to fight Hagler after the Mugabi fight because he saw Hagler slipping.............Mayweather saw Pacs macho bravado " I want to taste your power" , getting frustrated by a jab and movement and knew that he had that fight won before he even stepped into the Ring.......there is sooooooo many things he did wrong in the Cotto fight and Floyd will exploit those flaws to the max. You can bet your bottom dollar that behind closed doors Roach was cussing and cursing that Pac did not listen and fought "his" fight. If he ain't listening Against Cotto he ain't listening against Mayweather. Fact.

    I am also convinced that Roach don't want the fight deep inside..........
     
  11. PorkChopExpress

    PorkChopExpress Champion of the Universe Full Member

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    When Cotto got on his bike and started running Pac got frustrated and couldn't do anything until Cotto stopped moving back. Floyd won't stop moving around if he can avoid which is why I think it's highly likely the biggest fight of god knows how long before and how long after will end up being a PBF defence display akin to Marquez etc...

    Pac can throw a punch from anywhere though so he has that going for him.
     
  12. Toopretty

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    You dont learn how to cut the ring off against the best fighter at not getting trapped. See Pac/Barrera 2 for example. Barrera did not engage Pac like he did in the first fight and used his jab and movement and some counters but he did not stay for return fire. Yeah Pac won that fight but Barrera was not fighting his style. Floyd's regular style is to do that. Floyd being Floyd is the way to defeat pacman. Dont get froggy and trade punch for punch. Get your shots in get out repeat. Marquez was able to do this without even having the footwork to get away. If Pac could cut the ring off Cotto would of been knocked out in the early rounds.
     
  13. Toopretty

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    This is what pacman looks like when a guy is moving..lol

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3umLBQg8U[/ame]
     
  14. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Euh... Im not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand but... He blanked out Baldomir and ran over Zab. He also took it to Jr middle and outboxed Hoya. Can you explain what this had to do with anything?
     
  15. Knives7

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    :patsch :-( True, I can't say that Pacquiao has fought someone with Mayweather's defensive technique. He hasn't fought a slick boxer because the only slick boxer that Pacquiao can fight is Mayweather. :patsch It's also true that Mayweather hasn't fought anyone like Pacquiao. A boxer that can swarm and who can punch in any angle with speed and power. You're acting as if Pacquiao wouldn't be able to react to Mayweather's speed. Pacquiao is faster than Mayweather.